That's right. And Madden doesn't necessarily believe that defensive back Jack Tatum touched the ball (if Tatum hadn't touched the ball, then the play would have been ruled an incomplete pass under the rules at the time). He swears that he has watched video clips of that play hundreds of times since then, and he still has never been able to make a definitive statement about whether the ball was touched by Tatum, Frenchy Fuqua (the offensive player), or both.