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Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go.

What we got was the rise of xenophobic Islamic Jihadism fueled by barbarous tribal and clan warfare.

Let's look at the track record last year and this New Year.

The US encouraged Iranian dissidents and moderates to protest by not voting last June and look what we have- a "terpich fresser" (" carpet eater" in German- a term used to describe madman Hitler) in Tehran lunatic apocalyptic President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad brandishing his nuclear scimitar at Israel and the West and telling Bush and the EU to stuff it. Meanwhile Russia, China and even India are bought off by billion dollar trade and arms deals with Iran ensuring no UN security actions. Nary a glove is laid on Iran's patent "Judenhass" (German for Jewish hatred) on this UN's first Holocaust Memorial Day, Friday.

Also in June in Lebanon after four rounds of voting in the first, Hezbollah and allied parties win 35 seats out of 128 in the Lebanese parliament. Hezbollah literally announces takeover of all of South Lebanon and threatens the new government with secession. Iran pours in over $600 million in "assistance" to Hezbollah annually and Hezbollah earns another $600 million from telephone card monopolies and drug dealing producing a billion dollar plus war chest. Hezbollah has tens of thousands of rockets, artillery, munitions, arms and vehicles in those underground bunkers in the Bekaa Valley. Hezbollah begins actions against Northern Israel. Hezbollah now mans all of the guard posts-some directly overlooking Israel's northern road along the border with Lebanon. Opposition leaders in Lebanon are continually assassinated presumably by Syrian backed operatives.

August, Sharon and Olmert engineer the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza creating a mini-Hamastan and seeds of civil war between Fatah and Hamas. 9,000 Jews are displaced to live in caravan and hotel squalor inside the green line and upwards of 5,000 Arab jobs are destroyed along with $75 to $100 million from vegetable and herb export earnings from high tech greenhouses, since destroyed. Security for Israel is lost despite the move.

Tons of arms, weapons and millions of dollars pour into Gaza from al Qaeda and Iran-backed Islamic Jihad.

Then comes September and aging Egyptian dictator/ruler Mubarak now has 79 members of the Muslim Brotherhood sitting in his phony parliament and waging war against Coptic Christians. Copts account for 12 to 15 million out of Egypt's 80 million in population and they have five seats and all the women have another five. Sharia dhimmitude basically takes over. The Mubarak dynasty will never retain control in this decade.

In mid-November, Dr. Rice and entourage fly in on the weekend of November 12th to jam it to the Israelis to enter an unsigned agreement to open up the Rafah gap border with Egypt. Mayhem occurs as Hamas and al Qaeda pour in operatives, arms and munitions and the rain of Qassem rockets begins to fall on Northern Sinai and Ashkelon in Israel.

December 15th, elections occur in Iraq and the pre-dominate party elected is a Shia Islamists group, now in fractious negotiations with minority Sunnis which may blow up in the faces of the desperate US Ambassador, Afghan born Zalmay Khalilzad, Dr. Rice and President Bush. The Kurds are simply angling for justifiable regional autonomy. Meanwhile neighboring Iran trains and funds insurgents in the country to foment turmoil.

January 25th, Hamas-an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood wins an overwhelming majority of the Palestinian Legislative Council and violence erupts with disenfranchised Fatah gunmen in Gaza and the West Bank. Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, in Damascus says the armed struggle against Israel will not cease.

All this in a Damascus, where we now learn from Saddam's former Air Force head where they took most of the WMD makings. A Damascus where diminutive Iran President Ahmadinejad and towering Syrian President Assad held a photo op and war council prior to the Palestinian Legislative Council vote. Doubtless they met secretly to cement terror funding with both Hamas and Hezbollah leaders for actions against Israel following the "surprise" Hamas win of last Wednesday.

What's the score so far in this "great game" in baseball argot: Jihad 7. Israel and the West zip!

The green flag of Jihadists Islam advances everywhere in the Middle East. The foolish western chimera (the mythological animal-half lion and half goat) of liberty and democracy for Muslim chimerlands in the Middle East is a failed delusion.

Olmert and the Kadimah leadership, Rice and Bush are like the Vichy French police chief portrayed by the late British film actor Claude Rains who spoke that fabled line in the Bogie movie, "Casablanca": "I'm shocked, shocked."

Looks like the beginning of Armageddon to me.

1 posted on 02/03/2006 3:31:05 PM PST by Deacon_m
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The URL link isn't working.. but based on the lunacy written, it probably isn't worth the bandwidth. Who is the author? I'll add them to my avoid list.


2 posted on 02/03/2006 3:33:30 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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Idiots like Jerry Gordon, who know little to nothing about Islam and less about the Middle East, have no business writing "know it all" articles whose sole focus is to bash Bush or promote isolationism.

3 posted on 02/03/2006 3:37:04 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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What exactly does that word "Armageddon" actually mean???


6 posted on 02/03/2006 3:43:01 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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Bringing Liberty and Democracy is NOT a fools errand. It is an important long term strategic step to CLARIFY your enemies. If the radical branches of any country take power and will not abide by acceptable civilized behavior, it becomes much easier to carry the war to the enemy and kill them.

The whole point of this effort is to get people to see the carrot and the stick. Play nice, you and your country can live how you like in your own little sand box. Don't play nice and you will get slapped down... HARD... enough so that you will loose power and the other people who are more willing to stay in their own little sand box will take power.

Gather your enemies in one place and kill them
7 posted on 02/03/2006 3:43:16 PM PST by taxcontrol
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Take a realistic look at things from the simplest to the most complex and just about every problem takes as long to fix as it did to create.

Take a look at the rise of Russian Communism in the early 20th century until it fell apart in the late 80s-early 90s.

The middle point was about the start of the cold war,which Reagan won.

Any hysterics about the failure of democracy in the middle east are far too premature.

10 posted on 02/03/2006 3:46:41 PM PST by carlr
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Rolling Eyes
12 posted on 02/03/2006 3:52:10 PM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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"Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go."

I don't accept this premise in the least, for it is a judgment that can only be made after one or two decades of attempted democratization in Islamic lands.

If one accepts this judgment now, it's akin to the rest of the world covering their collective eyes, ears, and mouth in hopes that radical Islam will abandon goals of conquest, become moderate and disappear on its own. Talk about a fool's errand!

13 posted on 02/03/2006 3:54:27 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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Looks like the beginning of Armageddon to me.

Yep, if we fail to save them from themselves we might have to kill them.

24 posted on 02/03/2006 4:16:17 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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You omitted the most important players in the game. The ones with the most at stake are the Gulf countries of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Oman.

The war in Iraq was fought with their bidding and support. A stable Iraq has Iran very nervous.

All of the GCC plus Lebanon,Jordan, Iraq and Israel will form the coalition to nullify Iran. Palestine is contained and now trivial. This coalition when joined by some Euros will prevail.


25 posted on 02/03/2006 4:24:34 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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What utter foolishness.

Another "end-of-the world" fruitcake.

Pre-internet days saw creatures like you swatting at imaginary flies and holding day long "lectures" in city parks.

Those were the good 'ol days.


29 posted on 02/03/2006 4:51:01 PM PST by CBart95
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This article and your post is insulting to the US military and people who have died trying to bring representative governments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and the greater middle east. I stopped reading your post after about three lines. Young people across the muslim world are open to American culture even in Saudi Arabia. That is why OBL's crowd is terrified of us and even the EU. Western culture has a presence and influence on the young people in that region which is never really reported in the US. The whole region seems to be on its way to some type of political upheaval,and we must side with freedom and our values.


30 posted on 02/03/2006 4:53:50 PM PST by sangrila
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Almost nobody even understands your use of the word Armageadon you dolt. Yet look at the company you have!

There's still time to get some help for your unhappiness. See your priest or your Rabbi.

Do it now.


32 posted on 02/03/2006 4:55:53 PM PST by CBart95
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"Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go."

Shhhh, everybody: don't wake Ted Kennedy while he's talking in his sleep. [j/k]

34 posted on 02/03/2006 5:05:37 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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Hope its on DVD.
First Gulf war had great vids. The later one wasn't so good.

Personally, I think Jesus foretold of the Armageddon, played out as he predicted..60 A>D> or so.

But God Raining Fire from the Sky has a nice ring to it.

We got the fire.
We own the sky.
Lets dance, shall we?

Like I said, I want good video this time.

"Your Tax dollars at work"

Heck, would even get cable TV back for that.
Fox would probably cover some Bimbo Murderess story instead...
"we will update you on the proceeding Armageddon as events transpire, now back to our 24/7 coverage of the Bimbo trial."
Heh.


38 posted on 02/03/2006 5:29:41 PM PST by pending
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[ Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go. ]

You're right.. Democracy IS Mob Rule personificated and if Sharia Law is nothing its Mob Rule.. Would be HARD for democracys to face the denial.. Sharia Law is not much different than their form of government(democracy) BUT it is..

The democracys will also NOT notice that democracy is the disease than causes socialism (slavery by government).. which results in Mob Rule.. Worshippers of democracys have blind faith in them.. as a religion.. Worshipping a God that requires subjection and submission.. as Sharia law does.. Are we in United States a republic or a democracy, if a democracy, we have fallen a great distance.. With few to lament it.. OR spit on the product of that degradation..

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Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

39 posted on 02/03/2006 6:05:17 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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If you believe that we are nearing Armageddon...the final battle spoken of in Revelations, then it doesn't matter what anyone did, it was going to happen anyway.


48 posted on 02/04/2006 3:10:14 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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I'll give you one thing, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has 18 letters, or three groups of six.


49 posted on 02/04/2006 3:12:57 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice,
"This is the supper of the mighty one",
The Lord of Lords,
King of Kings,
Has returned to lead his children home,
To take them to the new Jerusalem.


51 posted on 02/04/2006 3:16:36 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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LINK

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/2006/01/the_beginning_o_1.php


52 posted on 02/04/2006 3:20:09 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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