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The Beginning of Armageddon
American Congress For Truth ^ | January 29, 2006 | Jerry Gordon

Posted on 02/03/2006 3:31:04 PM PST by Deacon_m

The Beginning of Armageddon?

By Jerry Gordon, former U.S. military intelligence officer and Middle East Analyst for American Congress for Truth.

Israel, the US and the West have lost in the Middle East because of a delusion - the Bush version of the Wilsonian dream of national sovereignty and "democracy" has no traction in the cradle of political Jihad Islam. Wilson's League of Nation dream didn't prevent the rise of Herr Hitler and his Nazi thugs who gave us the Shoah and six million dead European Jews whose memories we commemorated on Friday at the UN and in dozens of civilized countries around the globe.

In a strange way Princeton Emeritus Professor and Vice President Dick Cheney's favorite Middle East policy wonk, Bernard Lewis and the neo-cons have lost. But my friends Bat Ye'or, Bob Spencer and Andrew Boston have won a Pyrrhic victory ("literally winning the battle and losing the war).

Bush and Condi miscalculated and so did Sharon and Olmert.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1bigfoot; 4blackhelicopters; armageddon; delusion; hamasandhezbollah; jerrygordon; myfirstbeer; nutcase
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To: Just mythoughts
It's from the Bible, specifically Revelation, Chapter 16, verse 16. It is believed to be actually Megiddo, near the Valley of Jezreel, in present day Israel. Napoleon once described it as the perfect battlefield. The Isrealites and others have fought many battles there. The Apostle John saw a vision (the "Revelation") that all the armies of the earth will be gathered there, and heaven's armies will wipe them out.

After that, Christ will return to earth. Even in secular circles, it has come to symbolize the final battle between good and evil. Biblical scholars will tell you that this is not truly the final battle, though. After Christ and His followers rule for 1000 years, there is yet another battle described in Revelation, Chapter 20: 7-10, when Satan and his armies are finally crushed.
21 posted on 02/03/2006 4:13:54 PM PST by keats5
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To: mnehrling

Yeah, Lebanon was much better off when it was occupied by Syria. That's soooo logical. I'm sure the author spoke to a lot of Lebanese before writing this garbage! /sarcasm off.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 4:15:47 PM PST by winner3000
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To: mnehrling
"what we have- a "terpich fresser" (" carpet eater" in German- a term used to describe madman Hitler)",

Hitler was a lesbian?

And besides, Ah-mini-jab is Iranian, not Lebanese!

23 posted on 02/03/2006 4:16:02 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Deacon_m
Looks like the beginning of Armageddon to me.

Yep, if we fail to save them from themselves we might have to kill them.

24 posted on 02/03/2006 4:16:17 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Deacon_m

You omitted the most important players in the game. The ones with the most at stake are the Gulf countries of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Oman.

The war in Iraq was fought with their bidding and support. A stable Iraq has Iran very nervous.

All of the GCC plus Lebanon,Jordan, Iraq and Israel will form the coalition to nullify Iran. Palestine is contained and now trivial. This coalition when joined by some Euros will prevail.


25 posted on 02/03/2006 4:24:34 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Just mythoughts

Har Megiddo...a battle cry issued from the fortified (from time of Joshua) town of Megiddo in the central plains of Israel, prophesied to be the site of a future great battle between good and evil.


26 posted on 02/03/2006 4:32:43 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: keats5

The plain of Megiddo was a regular battlefield, if I remember correctly. The premillineal view sells well, but I believe that Armagedon actually occurred in AD70, ending the Mosaic Covenant with divine finality. The intensity of the horror during the destruction of Jerusalem and all of the Judean fortifications was extreme. We are now under the new covenant. (New Heavens and New Earth.)


27 posted on 02/03/2006 4:34:12 PM PST by DX10
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To: Tim Long
What exactly does that word "Armageddon" actually mean???

It is another name for the plain of Megiddo in Israel where the battle at the Second Coming will be fought. It is rendered Har-Magedon in Revelation.

More specifically Har means Hill or Mount. Megiddo is an ancient Canaanite city used by Solomon as a cavalry post. It overlooks the Jezreel valley which connects the Valley of the Jarden / Jordan with the coastal plain. If you're going to fight for the region you'll meet there - Egyptian, Assyrian, or Israeli. Armegeddon is an English transliteration of a Greek transliteration.

28 posted on 02/03/2006 4:40:33 PM PST by yatros from flatwater
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To: Deacon_m

What utter foolishness.

Another "end-of-the world" fruitcake.

Pre-internet days saw creatures like you swatting at imaginary flies and holding day long "lectures" in city parks.

Those were the good 'ol days.


29 posted on 02/03/2006 4:51:01 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Deacon_m

This article and your post is insulting to the US military and people who have died trying to bring representative governments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and the greater middle east. I stopped reading your post after about three lines. Young people across the muslim world are open to American culture even in Saudi Arabia. That is why OBL's crowd is terrified of us and even the EU. Western culture has a presence and influence on the young people in that region which is never really reported in the US. The whole region seems to be on its way to some type of political upheaval,and we must side with freedom and our values.


30 posted on 02/03/2006 4:53:50 PM PST by sangrila
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To: Tom the Bug Man

LOL


31 posted on 02/03/2006 4:54:39 PM PST by sangrila
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To: Deacon_m

Almost nobody even understands your use of the word Armageadon you dolt. Yet look at the company you have!

There's still time to get some help for your unhappiness. See your priest or your Rabbi.

Do it now.


32 posted on 02/03/2006 4:55:53 PM PST by CBart95
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To: DX10
Good grief. I missed Christ's second coming, the resurrection of the martyred saints, the 1000 years of peace and Satan's ultimate doom (Rev 20). Guess I've been freeping too long! I thought Satan was still nipping at my heels.

But seriously, according to my Bible, the New Heaven and New Earth don't happen until Rev. 21.
33 posted on 02/03/2006 4:56:28 PM PST by keats5
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To: Deacon_m
"Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go."

Shhhh, everybody: don't wake Ted Kennedy while he's talking in his sleep. [j/k]

34 posted on 02/03/2006 5:05:37 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: keats5

"Good grief. I missed Christ's second coming, the resurrection of the martyred saints, the 1000 years of peace and Satan's ultimate doom (Rev 20). Guess I've been freeping too long! I thought Satan was still nipping at my heels.

But seriously, according to my Bible, the New Heaven and New Earth don't happen until Rev. 21."

I understand. I believe that the Revelation was written prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and that the judgement referred to those who rejected Christ during his ministry. (Matt 23:29-39) If heaven and earth have not passed then we are still under the old law. (Matt 5:17,18) This would be in contradiction with Col 2:14 and the entire book of Hebrews. You haven't missed anything. If convenient get a copy of "When Jerusalem Fell" by Kenneth L. Gentry Jr. Regards.


35 posted on 02/03/2006 5:07:58 PM PST by DX10
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To: Just mythoughts

IIRC armmeggedon is a plain in Isreal where "the" battle will take place.

i pray, give me a few more years to see all my grand kids
and gather them in my ARMS.


36 posted on 02/03/2006 5:08:21 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (vampires stole my lunch money !)
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To: keats5

But get this. One of our number actually sees things as they are.

The ones with the most at stake are the Gulf countries of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE and Oman.

"The war in Iraq was fought with their bidding and support. A stable Iraq has Iran very nervous.

All of the GCC plus Lebanon,Jordan, Iraq and Israel will form the coalition to nullify Iran. Palestine is contained and now trivial. This coalition when joined by some Euros will prevail."

What's missing in all this is the direct hands-on role Russia, China, France and Germany already have in directly supporting the terrorism already.

Thus, we are very much closer to having all of this turn our way very soon. And wait until you see the many "friends" of the earth and of the USA who will be devastated by this outworking of JUSTICE.

Some that really stand out will be Bill and his insane wife Hillary.


37 posted on 02/03/2006 5:09:26 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Deacon_m

Hope its on DVD.
First Gulf war had great vids. The later one wasn't so good.

Personally, I think Jesus foretold of the Armageddon, played out as he predicted..60 A>D> or so.

But God Raining Fire from the Sky has a nice ring to it.

We got the fire.
We own the sky.
Lets dance, shall we?

Like I said, I want good video this time.

"Your Tax dollars at work"

Heck, would even get cable TV back for that.
Fox would probably cover some Bimbo Murderess story instead...
"we will update you on the proceeding Armageddon as events transpire, now back to our 24/7 coverage of the Bimbo trial."
Heh.


38 posted on 02/03/2006 5:29:41 PM PST by pending
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To: Deacon_m
[ Bringing liberty and democracy to Islamic lands was a fool's errand from the get go. ]

You're right.. Democracy IS Mob Rule personificated and if Sharia Law is nothing its Mob Rule.. Would be HARD for democracys to face the denial.. Sharia Law is not much different than their form of government(democracy) BUT it is..

The democracys will also NOT notice that democracy is the disease than causes socialism (slavery by government).. which results in Mob Rule.. Worshippers of democracys have blind faith in them.. as a religion.. Worshipping a God that requires subjection and submission.. as Sharia law does.. Are we in United States a republic or a democracy, if a democracy, we have fallen a great distance.. With few to lament it.. OR spit on the product of that degradation..

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Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. – John Adams (1814)

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

39 posted on 02/03/2006 6:05:17 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

I believe what you are saying is true if we were to use the traditional definition of democracy, but the word democracy has come to be a synonym for republican and representative governments. Iraq and Afghanistan's new governments are both democratic republics. Neither are the true democracies that you and Adams are referring to. Pure democracy gets you things like the French Revolution and the founders certainly knew that. Adams perhaps feared democracy more than anyone.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 9:20:43 PM PST by sangrila
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