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Frist: Gov't Unwanted in End-Of-Life Cases
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/29/06 | AP

Posted on 01/29/2006 10:06:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who took a leading role in the Terry Schiavo case, said Sunday it taught him that Americans do not want the government involved in such end-of-life decisions.

Frist, considered a presidential hopeful for 2008, defended his call for further examinations of the brain-damaged Florida woman during the last days of a bitter family feud over her treatment. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state.

The case became a rallying point for right-to-life advocates, an important segment of the Republican Party. It also drew interest from those supporting the right to refuse life-sustaining medical treatment and led to charges that the GOP was using a family tragedy for political gain.

Asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" if he had any regrets regarding the Schiavo case, Frist said: "Well, I'll tell you what I learned from it, which is obvious. The American people don't want you involved in these decisions."

Schiavo, 41, died March 31, nearly two weeks after her feeding tube was removed and 15 years after her initial collapse and hospitalization. Courts in Florida had supported her husband's contention that she would not want to live in such a state. Her parents and siblings disagreed and for years fought efforts to remove her feeding tube.

An autopsy later showed that Schiavo had suffered severe, irreversible brain damage and was blind.

Frist, R-Tenn., said in the full Senate that he supported what he called "an opportunity to save Mrs. Schiavo's life." A heart surgeon, Frist had viewed video ordered by a court and taken by a board-certified neurologist who had concluded she was not in a persistent vegetative state.

Congress passed a bill to allow a federal court to review the case, and President Bush quickly returned from his Texas ranch to sign the bill into law. But a federal judge refused to order the tube reinserted, a decision upheld by a federal appeals court and the Supreme Court.

Frist was later mocked as having made a diagnosis from his office using a video screen. "I didn't make the diagnosis," Frist said Sunday. "I raised the question of whether or not she was in a persistent vegetative state."

Looking back, Frist said, "When you're taking innocent life, with parents who want that life preserved, you've got to make sure, and therefore stepping in to say, let's take one more review, that's what we did."

He added: "I accept the outcome. I don't agree with the moral sense of it."

Frist plans to leave the Senate when his second term expires in January 2007. He said Sunday he will return to his home in Tennessee and decide whether to seek the Republican nomination for president.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; assistedsuicide; badsamaritans; cases; endoflife; ennui; euthanasia; fatalism; frist; kevorkian; nihilism; noshtsherlock; schiavo; terribots; terrischiavo; terrischindler; unwanted; wheelchairsdownsteps; whybothertrying
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
If a person wants to die, then they can die if they do it by their own hand, they shouldn't drag others into the cesspool with them.

Pro-euthanasiacs try to convince folks that physician assisted death is a "private" matter. Of course it's not private -- others are dragged into the picture.

201 posted on 01/29/2006 5:39:41 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: DLfromthedesert

The Schindlers had millions of people behind them.


202 posted on 01/29/2006 5:39:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

Keep your butt and the governments out of my family's business.


203 posted on 01/29/2006 5:44:51 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Keep your butt and the governments out of my family's business.

>>>

No.


204 posted on 01/29/2006 5:45:20 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: NormsRevenge
If the govt. is to stay out of all end of life issues, then let Kervorkian out of jail, make suicide legal, leave Roe V. Wade in place, let doctors decide when the aged have become useless, and allow euthenasia at every doctor's discretion.
205 posted on 01/29/2006 5:45:38 PM PST by veronica
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To: dalereed

I don't want to be killed by Dr. Kevorkian II.


206 posted on 01/29/2006 5:46:03 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: HairOfTheDog
whenever a court was asked to decide, they ruled in favor of what MS wanted to do

Let's me get this straight,

are you saying the courts revisited the facts of the case?

The lurkers should be told -- the courts didn't do that.


207 posted on 01/29/2006 5:46:31 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: HairOfTheDog
{Michael] could have removed the tube without the court.

So...
you admit that Michael started the "drag in the government" thingie.

208 posted on 01/29/2006 5:49:19 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: syriacus
Yes, I know. I also maintain that murder is never a "private" matter and never a "private family matter".

My grandma could eat right up 'til the end. She was actually eating breakfast when she died of a heart attack. Even if she'd had a food tube, I'd never have considered pulling it. (By this time, she'd fallen and broken her hip and then had a stroke so we couldn't understand what she was saying.) If my aunts had tried something like that I would have fought them any way I could have to protect my grandmother from them. Well, only one aunt is the kind who would have possibly tried something like that.

They were doing a procedure down in Mexico to help people with congestive heart failure (I read about it in Time Magazine), I presented it to my grandmother for her to decide. She decided it was too experimental even though it was supposedly by then being tried at the Mayo clinic.

Also, it was more than just an enlarged heart with the congestive heart failure, her heart valves were all messed up and she would have had to have surgeries on those and I don't think she would have made it through all that.

But it was her decision not to go through a surgery like that. She died peacefully and naturally in the nursing home.

209 posted on 01/29/2006 5:51:12 PM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: syriacus

I have said goodnight. I'll say it again.

Good night.


210 posted on 01/29/2006 5:51:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: syriacus
Florida's got killer bees now. Maybe Judge Greer can order DEATH BY BEE STING the next time he wants to kill an disabled woman. (he hates women)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-killerbees-jan28,0,1875683.story?coll=sns-ap-football-headlines&track=mostemailedlink

211 posted on 01/29/2006 5:52:34 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: eleni121

Think about this carefully, please...you REALLY want the government involved in this? REALLY?


212 posted on 01/29/2006 5:54:10 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: FairOpinion
"So, do you think the government should just stay out and allow spouses and relatives to murder their inconvenient spouses and relatives without government interference?"

Just using your argument: So lets say today the government gets involved to prevent murder of the inconvenient. Now, government is involved. 20 years from now, due to precedent, the government is involved in those decisions, but now takes the other side. How would you respond?

213 posted on 01/29/2006 5:54:38 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: syriacus
Be Back Later! Law and Order:CI is getting ready to come on! :)
214 posted on 01/29/2006 5:56:18 PM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: syriacus
A lot of people who are force exited aren't even going through the courts. Medical providers emboldened since Terri's starvation death are unplugging people, drugging people, starving and dehydrating them.

Law enforcement isn't watching either. What's scary is that homeland security is participating on the side of euthanasia. Most lurkers and freepers don't know this.

215 posted on 01/29/2006 5:57:50 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Hildy

Think about this carefully, please...you REALLY want the government involved in this? REALLY?>>>

Yes. REALLY. I for one don't want to be killed by a medical exterminationist.


216 posted on 01/29/2006 5:58:57 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

The day I can't provide for myself 100% is the day I check out and you or anyone else can't stop me, at that point I have no right taking up space on this planet!


217 posted on 01/29/2006 5:59:25 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Hildy

I want goverment protecting life from murder ...at the beginning and at the end. And of course while the person is healthy and independent.

Why is that such a hard thing for a conservative to contemplate?


218 posted on 01/29/2006 6:00:53 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Tench_Coxe

Now, government is involved. 20 years from now, due to precedent, the government is involved in those decisions, but now takes the other side. How would you respond?
>>

Let's let a far smarter man than you answer that:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...."


219 posted on 01/29/2006 6:01:11 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Wheee The People
HairOfTheDog: "I've lost interest in re-debating Greer and Terri and Michael. Carry on without me."

Wheee The People:"Yawnnnnnn....me too. "

I hope you both have a very good evening.

220 posted on 01/29/2006 6:01:16 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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