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1 posted on 01/21/2006 11:23:35 PM PST by Bullitt
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To: Gelato

ping...


2 posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Bullitt

Mike Schiavo finally applies for marriage license. Took long enough for the adulterer to finally go for it.


3 posted on 01/21/2006 11:25:51 PM PST by Bullitt
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We ain't much for national soveignty either.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 11:27:25 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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Schiavo's Sister: U.S. Doesn't Value Life

Yeah. I'd say 45,000,000 dead from abortions since 1973 signifies the US doesn't value life.

5 posted on 01/21/2006 11:30:15 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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It aint the U.S. sweetheart. Its the whole world, and its been that way for thousands of years. War, abortion, murder...none of these are new concepts. Its just urchins like yourself who watch too much TV and scream "the sky is..!!", as if selfishness just plopped down from the heavens for the first time.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 11:34:40 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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I understand Terri Schiavo's sister's point, but do not agree that the title reflects the truth. It's a blanket statement that the "U.S. Doesn't Value Life", painting all of U.S. citizens with the same brush. That is not an accurate statement and I"m sure many FReepers will agree.


12 posted on 01/21/2006 11:45:19 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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Schavio saga, as tragic as it was, received an unprecedented level of attention and support. It would have gotten zero level of attention in any other country.

I know I will get flamed, but, I'd say that as long as a country engages in warfare, it cannot truly value life. Warfare, even against the merciless, zealot enemy, means death and destruction of lives. This idealist message belongs in academia.
14 posted on 01/21/2006 11:50:13 PM PST by sagar
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Terri ping


15 posted on 01/21/2006 11:52:59 PM PST by FairOpinion
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"The autopsy supported Michael Schiavo's contention that she was in a persistent vegetative state with no consciousness and no hope of recovery."

The article keeps propagating LIES.

The autopsy specifically said that it cannot be determined whether or not she was in PVS from the autopsy.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 11:55:03 PM PST by FairOpinion
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How can a country value life when it cannot even value its own Constitution?


18 posted on 01/21/2006 11:55:58 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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You can't compare abortion and the Schiavo case. I'm sorry, but the Schiavos were delusional in thinking that their daughter could recover.


19 posted on 01/21/2006 11:59:13 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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Suzanne is so lovely and so correct in her assessment, that
we have lost our way as a nation.

God bless her every effort and that of Terri's family's
foundation to protect life as our nation should have
done for her sister!!

Is there anything more important??


24 posted on 01/22/2006 12:04:16 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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Ya think. Let's see: Add to "mercy" killings, abortion on demand and increasing victimization of our children, and yeah, I'd say America has really strayed on its value of human life.


30 posted on 01/22/2006 12:25:42 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Bullitt; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; AlbionGirl; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

42 posted on 01/22/2006 12:39:16 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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Eh...I wouldn't say the U.S. doesn't value life. I would say people are (unfortunately) instinctively pre-disposed toward death at this time, but when consciencely a choice is forced they tend to side for Life. It's a mixed bag. Polls, for what they are worth, showed people saying she should be starved to death. When given the precise facts, they said she should live. It's mixed.

BTW, Michelle Malkin is following a similiar case.

http://michellemalkin.com/

Last fall, Haleigh was hospitalized after her stepfather allegedly burned her and beat her nearly to death with a baseball bat. Haleigh, in a coma, was kept alive by a feeding tube and ventilator. Doctors said she was "virtually brain dead" -- in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery.

The Massachusetts Department of Social Services wanted to remove Haleigh's feeding and breathing tubes.

Even her biological mother (who had been deemed unfit to care for Haleigh and whose former boyfriend was accused of sexually abusing the child) wanted her to be put to death (transcript via Nexis/CBS Evening News):

CBS reporter SHARYN ALFONSI: This is Haleigh Poutre before, before her teeth were broken, before her tiny body was burned and before she was beaten, doctors say, into a vegetative state. You're her mother.
Ms. ALLISON AVRETT (Biological Mother): Yes.

ALFONSI: What do you want for her?

AVRETT: I want her to rest.

ALFONSI: And right now?

AVRETT: She's not. Being kept like that is not a life.


The only person who wanted Haleigh alive was her stepfather, who will likely be charged with murder if Haleigh dies.

Two days ago, Massachusetts' Supreme Court ruled against Haleigh's stepfather, saying it was ''unthinkable" to give the power to make a life-and-death decision to the man accused of putting Haleigh in a coma. "Court: State can let beaten girl die," the headlines trumpeted.

Just one small complication for all of those who, for whatever reason, were in such a rush to "let Haleigh die:"

Haleigh wants to live.

As state officials prepared to remove Haleigh's life support, the supposedly impossible happened:

A day after the state's highest court ruled that the Department of Social Services could withdraw life support from a brain-damaged girl, the agency said yesterday that Haleigh Poutre might be emerging from her vegetative state.
DSS also said it has no immediate plans to remove her feeding tube.

''There has been a change in her condition," said a DSS spokeswoman, Denise Monteiro. ''The vegetative state may not be a total vegetative state."

Monteiro said Haleigh is breathing on her own, without the ventilator she has depended on for four months. Monteiro also said that doctors at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield elicited responses from Haleigh during tests performed yesterday.


Everyone had given up on Haleigh--except Haleigh.

This is a huge story, a wake-up call to "right-to-die" ideologues who recklessly put such unlimited trust in the medical profession and Nanny State. The same government bureaucrats and doctors who had conclusively deemed the 11-year-old girl "hopeless" and her vegetative state "irreversible" now tell us she is responding to stimuli and breathing on her own.

They were wrong.

Next, look for The Professionals to tell us that despite her improvements, her "quality of life" will be worthless. We already know how they feel about people with feeding tubes.

Haleigh's fight has just begun.


61 posted on 01/22/2006 5:06:24 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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Terri Schiavo case had made implications that should concern us: the ability by a judge to sentence an innocent woman with no lawyer to be tortured to death - basically judicial homicide; to prevent a mother from putting water on the lips of her dying child; to for a guardian a sadistic person with a conflict of interest; etc.
63 posted on 01/22/2006 5:26:50 AM PST by Dante3
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I'm not casting stones here, but I can't help but wonder about her stand on abortion prior this atrocity.
87 posted on 01/23/2006 1:46:24 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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Ms. Vitadamo is indeed right. It started with Roe vs Wade. That piece of work should have been repealed the minute "Ms. Roe" recanted her testimony years ago.

Slippery slope has turned into a slalom run...


89 posted on 01/23/2006 8:40:04 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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Terri


101 posted on 01/23/2006 4:06:10 PM PST by Computer Central
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Judging from the mass media, the U.S. does value human life.

But it is the lives of the muderers and other criminals that they value.

They have nothing but contempt for the lives of the innocent.


105 posted on 01/23/2006 5:17:17 PM PST by sport
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