Feminism isn't dead, but a new book wounds it badly

Some women protest, "I'm a feminist, just not a radical feminist." Kate O'Beirne is impatient with such qualifications. She is not any kind of feminist, and when you finish her sparkling new book "Women Who Make the World Worse," you won't be one either.

Feminism, far from promoting the happiness and well-being of women and society, has instead left great swaths of melancholy in its wake. O'Beirne cites "One large study of well-being data on one hundred thousand Americans and Britons from the early 1970s to the late 1990s found that while American men had grown happier, women's well-being had dramatically fallen during the period . . . women were 20 percent less happy."

The so-called "women's movement" was and is a misnomer. Most women reject the anti-male, anti-family bias of the professional feminists. But a dedicated cohort of humorless, bitter, crusading women — mostly from miserable families — was able to dictate policy in some of the most important realms of life.

Feminists now claim that they were never against marriage and family. But O'Beirne has kept the quotes in her files. In 1971, Ms. Magazine founder Robin Morgan called marriage "a slavery-like practice," adding that "We cannot destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." Australian feminist guru Germaine Greer recommended that all women leave their husbands in search of more satisfying "rambling organic structures" (sounds vaguely unhygienic). And Jessie Bernard, a Pennsylvania State University sociologist, asserted that the "destructive nature" of marriage was both figuratively and literally making women sick.

Strangely, while feminists were burning with indignation toward men, they also enthusiastically endorsed promiscuity. O'Beirne quotes Harvard Law professor Mary Ann Glendon, who notes that early feminists who sought the vote and other rights "saw that the ready availability of abortion

Nice description of someone interesting. But you missed the point that the other person was trying to say that foreign women are whores. ;-)

I should repost my long analysis of social globalization.

I have long considered German women as heavy competition for Americans, without ruling Americans out by any means.

But cheap airfare and the Internet (free phone calls, free emails) have really changed the social world in the past 12 years. I specifically remember what a western man's dating choices were in 1989: liberal, leftist and radical (with American churches empty and the south devoid of high tech jobs). The women of the former Soviet bloc are mostly conservative. Their existence as Caucasian competition wasn't realized until 1995 when the Internet became widespread in the west. Racism cannot apply to Caucasian competition...American men saw the exact same bone structure, skin color, hair, everything genetically exact.

The world will never be the same again for American anti-male feminists who are like the moribund steel industry that Congress wanted to uphold tariffs for. American women can win against conservative foreign competition by being conservative and nice. Example: With foreign policy, support victory over terrorism. We all know that 70% of blue state women won't even make that simple step.

In globalization, the losers are those who denigrate the competition until its too late. The winners adjust to social market forces. Because so many American women won't consider foreign men (except for young leftist women I know who deliberately sought out Al Qaeda supporters to sleep with)...each Caucasian American man now has a choice of two Caucasian women if he wants to marry a Caucasian.

I haven't seen evidence of it being anything more than coincidental: the trend of younger American women being more conservative than the previous generation...but this trend would fit in with social globalization theory...that American society is adjusting to the fact that the Bush Family (and Reagan) liberated billions of people and freed up a billion women who now don't believe in the left wing view of the world that was being forced down their throats by the international left that wanted them to be imprisoned.

Social forces in this world make it a great time to be conservative. Leftist-style, socialist man-hating feminism is doomed by marriage market forces.

Except that premarital sex ain't going back to the backseat of the 50's drive-in either.

Take for instance some loser getting a certain Filipino bride who really only wants him for citizenship in the USA. The foreigner replaces an American woman who now has to compete with other American women for a better class of male who isn't a loser. Automatically, globalization has increased the number of American women competing for the better American men. Then you see doctors and lawyers and movie producers from the Blue States (New York and LA and SF) heading for Moscow where they spend $300 per night in the best hotels looking for conservative women with family values...and finding them (rich guys are mostly not dumb enough to choose mercenary women). You end up with a squeeze from both sides back in the USA. But great, friendly conservative women, born and bred in the USA, are still valued incredibly highly when they don't have a "take it or leave it" attitude. Social market forces predict more conservative American women and not just because so many Americans turned conservative on 9-11.

"But you missed the point that the other person was trying to say that foreign women are whores. ;-) "

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It was not missed...I just chose to address it differently as my subsequent post stated "What's wrong with marrying up'? So you see... if an American woman has a problem with a foreign woman "marrying up"...if that, in her twisted mind equates her foreign sister with being a whore... then she also condemns herself as a whore for also "marrying up". Who among us wants to marry into a "worse situation"?

you simply can not have it both ways.

I am well aware of the sniping that goes on by American women to foreign brides. I've seen this first hand when traveling extensively with my friends.

Women in general like to "marry up"...seeking mates in a higher social order / class as well as more secure financial standings.

Generally, given the opportunity to do so... men would most likely do the same.
The big difference is that men would freely admit it whereas women never do. To do so would again...equate her with being whore-like by her own condemnation of her foreign sisters..
God forbid if a white collar business exec woman were to marry a gentleman (even well mannered, groomed and well schooled) who is a garage mechanic or other blue collar gent with dirt under his fingernails for 8 hours a day.

So, maybe these foreign brides are also "marrying up" in their eyes...so be it. There's an ass for every seat.

I just get a big kick out of SOME American womens snide comments thinking that their foreign sisters are whores / sluts etc.

One of my businesses is dealing with importing Airbrushes and supplies to Philippines. I am flat out AMAZED at the level of education that the young people (20 to 35) who I come in contact with over there possess.

They can read / write / problem solve circles around their American counterparts with ease. They are extremely business savvy.

My tale about my brother getting his butt kicked was just to point out that things often are not as they appear.

The BIGGEST failure of feminism (imho) is the constant braying by feminists that "acting feminine" is a sign of weakness.

Go to Bogata, Catregena ...or Davao...and see how feminine women can be and STILL be "empowered". It's a breath of fresh air. Then come back here and see feminists doing a piss poor job of acting like little men. It's sad that they bought into it actually.

Regarding White women from Ukraine and surrounding areas... They are on the whole breathtakingly beautiful and by all accounts not polluted with the liberal education that MOST of their American counterparts have been brain washed with. Like the old saying goes...
GIGO (Garbage in, garbage out)

So... if some American gents choose to go offshore to find suitable spouses...good for them. Perhaps SOME American women can find the perfect pussified lap dogs they desire in a place like France.

The common factor with both is that the males (each child has a different father, a total of 4) had their fun and left.

Unless they were raped, these women were at least as responsible as the fathers for the decision to have unprotected sex outside marriage. I say "at least" because sometimes women lie to their partners about taking birth control meds.

It is generous of you to help those women, but they are autonomous human beings who made their own choices. They might not be victims of men, and even if they are, they are more than victims.

I discovered something today which I think is astounding. Maybe not to other people but to me it is.

Around 15 years ago, I worked at a Summer Retreat. Among the employees, were three uncommonly pretty, I might even say gorgeous girls. Now these were nice sweet, non feminist girls.

I haven't kept up with them but assumed they were all married, with kids etc.

Well I was talking to one of the boys who worked with me and who dated two of the girls. He still keeps in touch with them all.

Now here is the part which surprised me so much. They are all three in their 30's, two are still living with their parents, one in a one bedroom apartment and none are married. He said they all want to get married but can't find the right boy. I suspect they are looking for the perfect boy.

"Nice description of someone interesting. But you missed the point that the other person was trying to say that foreign women are whores...The world will never be the same again for American anti-male feminists..."

The former, of course, flows from the latter.

In, say, the 70s, a young woman in Boulder, Colorado could take the attitude, "We women have a total monopoly on things men must have for life to be tolerable, so we can be as selfish as we like, and they have to just shut up and take whatever crap we dish out."

Then, when they see an "escapee," an American male off the reservation, particularly with an Asian wife, they have to come up with reasons for it that spare their egos.

They can't just say, "American men are marrying Asian women in record numbers because feminism has turned us into harridans that no man wants to be around." So they invent myths to explain it.

Asian women are submissive. Those men are losers who can't get an American girlfriend. They're just fools who were taken in by whores. Anything and everything to escape having to face the truth.

"I haven't seen evidence of it being anything more than coincidental: the trend of younger American women being more conservative than the previous generation...but this trend would fit in with social globalization theory"

Seems to me the result of the younger generation seeing the outcome of their elders' bad decisions.

"Except that premarital sex ain't going back to the backseat of the 50's drive-in either."

More conservative young women will mean more young women who don't put out until marriage.

[They can't just say, "American men are marrying Asian women in record numbers because feminism has turned us into harridans that no man wants to be around." So they invent myths to explain it. Asian women are submissive. Those men are losers who can't get an American girlfriend. They're just fools who were taken in by whores. Anything and everything to escape having to face the truth.]

But racism provides that easy escape. This is why I, unfortunately, don't use Asian women as an example of competition for the marriage market. It would be like trying to tell many American businessmen 15 years ago that the Chinese were going to take over their industry. You still get American salesmen denigrating their Chinese competitors on quality issues. In fact, I have no choice but to do that myself on certain product features.

If I were to give social globalization seminars at Harvard and Stanford, etc, I would have my 6'1" Caucasian girlfriend participate and speak for herself, while making sure that any snobs in the room had ample time to discuss literature, art and history with her. Images replace 1000 words and, after seeing her, the hidden racist in many feminists would be scrambling to find another excuse. Of course, the State Department would have done their best to keep her out of the country. That is the equivalent of putting high tarrifs on foreign steel.

[More conservative young women will mean more young women who don't put out until marriage.]

Possibly. But, in practical terms, it means most will just want to hold off to get to know a man. The strictest of Russian Orthodox church-going young women...might hold off for a year (with an American man flying back and forth 3 or 4 times to Russia in that year) but the Russians know that social mores are never going back to the 18th century. The modern conservative agenda condemns nihilism, but it is not synonomous with the fundamentalist Islamic or fundamentalist Christian agenda. The modern conservative agenda, via globalization, is starting to standardize around the world...and except in the Islamic world, premarital sex is off the agenda.

We will see whether Muslim men succeed in telling Muslim women what to do with their bodies in the future. Our troops are shooting and killing dozens of men per day who would kill their own sister for having premarital sex. That kind of attitude has to stop of course.

I'd be more concerned about the souls of leftist American women who want to have sex with Muslim Al Qaeda supporters (I have met 4 very good looking young Caucasian women since 9-11 who thought this way).

[More conservative young women will mean more young women who don't put out until marriage.]

In terms of social globalization, if you are implying that a sizable amount of American single men value the above...then you would be saying that American men are flying out of the country for foreign lands in order NOT to have so much intimate contact with women...and that American women better learn not to be so friendly with men, because it really turns American men off how friendly American women are. :-)

Now let's look at the reality in the blue states:

The anti-male feminist movement in the USA does not promote friendliness between white capitalist men and any women, even for short-term relationships. "Sex in the City" may present a pathetic view of Manhattan liberal women...but its casual sex theme is actually atypical of the anti-white-male-capitalist theme that much of American feminism has been all about since the 70s.

If you are a white capitalist businessman, the feminists don't want you reproducing, period, and this means no casual sex for you either unless you buy one of the magazines they publish and call a hotline for $4.99 per minute. Michael Moore actually had a chapter in his British version of "Stupid White Men" called "Don't Date Whitey." It is all about making sure that we are put in our place.

I recommend the book "The New Victorians" to anyone who thinks that feminism really promotes premarital sex or any affection at all between white capitalist men and any women.

Here is the description that left wingers gave the book before they decided to tear her down in the comments section because of their left wing views on the issue:

"Distressed that women of her generation tend to dissociate themselves from the feminist movement, 27-year-old Denfeld asserts that older feminists themselves are to blame for this state of affairs. By adopting what she calls repressive sexual politics and a victim mentality that harken back to Victorian notions of femininity, today's feminist leaders, argues Denfeld, alienate younger women who perceive themselves to be more liberated and more empowered than current feminist dogma allows"

"if you are implying that a sizable amount of American single men value the above"

As they become more conservative, they are rediscovering the value of chastity.

"...then you would be saying that American men are flying out of the country for foreign lands in order NOT to have so much intimate contact with women..."

Not at all. There is a huge difference between a nice girl who is saving herself for marriage, and a bitter harridan who uses sex, or the withholding thereof, to whipsaw men.

"and that American women better learn not to be so friendly with men, because it really turns American men off how friendly American women are."

There is a big difference between "friendly" and "willing to put out."

"The anti-male feminist movement in the USA does not promote friendliness between white capitalist men and any women, even for short-term relationships."

No, it doesn't, but it does dismiss the value of chastity and marriage, and "empower" women to seek sexual adventure if and as they please.

"Sex in the City" may present a pathetic view of Manhattan liberal women"

Never seen it.

"It is all about making sure that we are put in our place."

That's pretty much what I was saying. However, it is an exaggeration to say that women only date non-whites.

"By adopting what she calls repressive sexual politics and a victim mentality that harken back to Victorian notions of femininity"

Yeah, okay, but how many women take that so to heart that they are virgins at 30 because of it?

Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly.

As young women become more conservative, there will be a trend toward virginity until marriage, and marriage at a younger age.

The "not putting out" will not result from hatred of men or a victim mentality, but from self-respect, moral concerns, and a desire to save something very important for their husbands.

"But racism provides that easy escape."

Sure it does, but that doesn't make it valid.

"This is why I, unfortunately, don't use Asian women as an example of competition for the marriage market."

You can structure your argument that way for tactical reasons; nothing wrong with that. However, there are a lot of men who find Asian women immensely attractive, for a number of reasons, from the tactile to the cultural.

"That is the equivalent of putting high tarrifs on foreign steel."

Yes, the formerly comfortable hate the emergence of competition.

"Possibly. But, in practical terms, it means most will just want to hold off to get to know a man."

Perhaps. I think it will mean a return to the importance of going to the altar a virgin.

"but the Russians know that social mores are never going back to the 18th century."

The Russians *think* that social mores are never going back to the 18th century.

"but it is not synonomous with the fundamentalist Islamic or fundamentalist Christian agenda."

Have you ever read the late Cardinal O'Connor's pastoral on marriage? I highly recommend it, to Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

"and except in the Islamic world, premarital sex is off the agenda."

Nothing is ever off the agenda, especially when it has as much intrinsic good as chastity.

"We will see whether Muslim men succeed in telling Muslim women what to do with their bodies in the future."

That really gets my back up. The reason is that feminists use that line to cheat.

The old rules were hammered out over centuries and millennia of give and take. Women do this and don't do that, and in return men do that and don't do the other. Compromise and accomodation were not dirty words. That's how you mold a society that is livable for both men and women, though perfect for neither.

Feminists have dishonestly discredited every request for accomodation and compromise by branding it as an attempt to "tell us what do do with our bodies."

"Our troops are shooting and killing dozens of men per day who would kill their own sister for having premarital sex. That kind of attitude has to stop of course."

Woah, false dichotomy. We are not faced with a choice between murdering women for sexual misconduct and endorsing any and all debauchery.

There is plenty of room for sensible, livable morality in between those two poles.

"I'd be more concerned about the souls of leftist American women who want to have sex with Muslim Al Qaeda supporters (I have met 4 very good looking young Caucasian women since 9-11 who thought this way)."

I don't think that they were "thinking," but I do wonder where you hang out that you would meet that many truly whacked-out sluts. That's evil in an active form.

Did they smell like brimstone?

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