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[They can't just say, "American men are marrying Asian women in record numbers because feminism has turned us into harridans that no man wants to be around." So they invent myths to explain it. Asian women are submissive. Those men are losers who can't get an American girlfriend. They're just fools who were taken in by whores. Anything and everything to escape having to face the truth.]

But racism provides that easy escape. This is why I, unfortunately, don't use Asian women as an example of competition for the marriage market. It would be like trying to tell many American businessmen 15 years ago that the Chinese were going to take over their industry. You still get American salesmen denigrating their Chinese competitors on quality issues. In fact, I have no choice but to do that myself on certain product features.

If I were to give social globalization seminars at Harvard and Stanford, etc, I would have my 6'1" Caucasian girlfriend participate and speak for herself, while making sure that any snobs in the room had ample time to discuss literature, art and history with her. Images replace 1000 words and, after seeing her, the hidden racist in many feminists would be scrambling to find another excuse. Of course, the State Department would have done their best to keep her out of the country. That is the equivalent of putting high tarrifs on foreign steel.

[More conservative young women will mean more young women who don't put out until marriage.]

Possibly. But, in practical terms, it means most will just want to hold off to get to know a man. The strictest of Russian Orthodox church-going young women...might hold off for a year (with an American man flying back and forth 3 or 4 times to Russia in that year) but the Russians know that social mores are never going back to the 18th century. The modern conservative agenda condemns nihilism, but it is not synonomous with the fundamentalist Islamic or fundamentalist Christian agenda. The modern conservative agenda, via globalization, is starting to standardize around the world...and except in the Islamic world, premarital sex is off the agenda.

We will see whether Muslim men succeed in telling Muslim women what to do with their bodies in the future. Our troops are shooting and killing dozens of men per day who would kill their own sister for having premarital sex. That kind of attitude has to stop of course.

I'd be more concerned about the souls of leftist American women who want to have sex with Muslim Al Qaeda supporters (I have met 4 very good looking young Caucasian women since 9-11 who thought this way).


96 posted on 01/14/2006 3:43:56 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness

"But racism provides that easy escape."

Sure it does, but that doesn't make it valid.

"This is why I, unfortunately, don't use Asian women as an example of competition for the marriage market."

You can structure your argument that way for tactical reasons; nothing wrong with that. However, there are a lot of men who find Asian women immensely attractive, for a number of reasons, from the tactile to the cultural.

"That is the equivalent of putting high tarrifs on foreign steel."

Yes, the formerly comfortable hate the emergence of competition.

"Possibly. But, in practical terms, it means most will just want to hold off to get to know a man."

Perhaps. I think it will mean a return to the importance of going to the altar a virgin.

"but the Russians know that social mores are never going back to the 18th century."

The Russians *think* that social mores are never going back to the 18th century.

"but it is not synonomous with the fundamentalist Islamic or fundamentalist Christian agenda."

Have you ever read the late Cardinal O'Connor's pastoral on marriage? I highly recommend it, to Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

"and except in the Islamic world, premarital sex is off the agenda."

Nothing is ever off the agenda, especially when it has as much intrinsic good as chastity.

"We will see whether Muslim men succeed in telling Muslim women what to do with their bodies in the future."

That really gets my back up. The reason is that feminists use that line to cheat.

The old rules were hammered out over centuries and millennia of give and take. Women do this and don't do that, and in return men do that and don't do the other. Compromise and accomodation were not dirty words. That's how you mold a society that is livable for both men and women, though perfect for neither.

Feminists have dishonestly discredited every request for accomodation and compromise by branding it as an attempt to "tell us what do do with our bodies."

"Our troops are shooting and killing dozens of men per day who would kill their own sister for having premarital sex. That kind of attitude has to stop of course."

Woah, false dichotomy. We are not faced with a choice between murdering women for sexual misconduct and endorsing any and all debauchery.

There is plenty of room for sensible, livable morality in between those two poles.

"I'd be more concerned about the souls of leftist American women who want to have sex with Muslim Al Qaeda supporters (I have met 4 very good looking young Caucasian women since 9-11 who thought this way)."

I don't think that they were "thinking," but I do wonder where you hang out that you would meet that many truly whacked-out sluts. That's evil in an active form.

Did they smell like brimstone?


99 posted on 01/14/2006 5:53:22 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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