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But perhaps they were named Rachel, Leah, Bilhah and Zilpah... just kidding, as the article makes clear that these 4 women lived about 1000 years ago. Still, it's a little funky how just 4 people left so many descendants. . . . what happened to the other descendants of all the other Jewish women living in Franco-Germany about 1000 years ago?
1 posted on 01/12/2006 10:33:22 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
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I am currently teaching my students about human genetics. Tay-Sachs is one of the autosomal recessive diseases we discussed thanks for the interesting insight into the possible effect of the founders' effect!
4 posted on 01/12/2006 10:38:41 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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Ashkenazic ping!


6 posted on 01/12/2006 10:44:16 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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Oxford is doing genetic studies that trace all of European descent to "The Seven Daughters of Eve".

Sounds like you guys are more "diverse" :-)

7 posted on 01/12/2006 10:59:05 PM PST by lizma
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To: rmlew; Yehuda
Ping



9 posted on 01/12/2006 11:09:36 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ChicagoHebrew
what happened to the other descendants of all the other Jewish women living in Franco-Germany about 1000 years ago?

Different women will have different numbers of daughters and there's a tendency for some lines to reproduce more prolifically than others. There's a neat little mathematical trick which demonstrates that if you take the total number of women in an isolated group, (say 40), within the same number of generations (40) every female in the group will most likely be descended from just one original female. Using that formula, a group of 160 women could reduce to just 4 lines in 1,000 years. Of course, in the article, it says 40% came from just 4 lines which means there were a lot more than 160 in the original migratory group and there's still plenty of reducing yet to go before you get down to just one line. It's estimated that every woman living today is descended from just one female who lived about 160,000 years ago.

10 posted on 01/12/2006 11:51:23 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
what happened to the other descendants of all the other Jewish women living in Franco-Germany about 1000 years ago?

They married descendents of Rachel, Leah, Bilhah, and Zilpah... ;) Just kidding. Good question.

I have a very goy question. Are the Ashkenazim the Hasidim? Or are they something different? I'm just surprised to hear one type of Jew constitute half of the Jewish population. Or is Ashkenazim a bloodline more than a religious practice? And some Ashkenazim are Orthodox, some Conservative, some Reformed, etc.?

12 posted on 01/13/2006 3:37:48 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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Interesting article. Thanks.


16 posted on 01/13/2006 5:43:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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>>>Still, it's a little funky how just 4 people left so many descendants. . . . what happened to the other descendants of all the other Jewish women living in Franco-Germany about 1000 years ago?

We don't each descend from one person. We have many ancestors - think your grandparents on both sides, their parents and grandparents, etc. Over 1,000 years there are many opportunities for gene lines to overlap. Given any two people who share the same culture and origins, odds are probably 10-1 that they'll find a common ancestor somewhere up the line.


24 posted on 01/15/2006 7:23:00 PM PST by blurb
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