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Please share your opinion of "Exodus." I'm curious to know what other people think of it.

P.S. Hank Azaria played a similiar character to Newman's in the 2001 t.v. movie "Uprising" about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.


1 posted on 01/02/2006 1:43:28 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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Have you seen it?


2 posted on 01/02/2006 1:45:54 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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Spielberg prefers his Jews as victims, not as fighters.


3 posted on 01/02/2006 1:45:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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It's been years since I have seen this. I remember that when it was being made, there wa a big spread on it in Life Magazine because the book had been such a best-seller.

The theme song was my eighth-grade choir's contest piece, and I still can sing it.

If you REALLY want to look at how favorably the Jews used to be treated, go watch "The Ten Commandments" and "Ben-Hur" again. When you watch those movies, you would think that the American Revolution was run by Israelites. Very pro-Jewish movies, unlike today.

I likes the old Hollywood much better.

4 posted on 01/02/2006 1:49:01 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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I saw it when it came out. It's been quite a while, but I certainly enjoyed it, and as you say, it painted the Israelis as real heroes of--shall we say--biblical proportions. Their backs were pushed to the wall, they were close to extermination, but they prevailed.


5 posted on 01/02/2006 1:49:30 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Newman refers to himself and other Jews born in Palestine/Israel as "Palestinians."

I haven’t seen or read it in years, but I’ve often recommended the film/book for that reason. We see the Palestinians, they’re spoken of throughout the film. And the Palestinians are Jews.

As I recall there are also several scenes depicting the friendly relationship between some of the local Arab population and the Jews, excuse me, the Palestinians. And a scene I remember where I presume the Sal Mineo character is warned of the Mufti’s followers.

No, they wouldn’t make the film today.

6 posted on 01/02/2006 1:50:39 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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"Exodus" is an fine motion picture and a trustworthy re-telling of the establishment of the modern Israel.

It should be shown to every High School student.
8 posted on 01/02/2006 1:51:56 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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I've not seen Exodus in many years, but it was a good movie. I'll have to see it again.


10 posted on 01/02/2006 1:52:32 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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1964 was the year it all fell apart.


12 posted on 01/02/2006 1:55:53 PM PST by chesley (Liberals...what's not to loathe?)
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Leon Urius wrote the book "Exedous". It goes into far more detail and is very well written. The kind of book you just can't put down. For example the character Sal Mineo plays is a "Sondercommando" in a concetration camp. He removes bodies from the ovens. It delves into the past of the principals to explain their beliefs they carry with them now.


13 posted on 01/02/2006 1:56:46 PM PST by skimask (I'll march through Hell wearing shorts soaked in gasoline, if needed to get the job done)
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I'd prefer that people read the book. A movie of such a book is the same as only reading the introduction and not the content.


14 posted on 01/02/2006 1:57:02 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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There's another excellent movie about the Munich subject. A made for cable movie from back in the 80s.

SWORD OF GIDEON I recommend it.

After reading your post, I found the following review of Munich, which I don't plan on seeing.

http://www.fandango.com/ReviewPage.aspx?mid=92524&review_source=LosAngelesTimes


15 posted on 01/02/2006 1:57:02 PM PST by YaYa123
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You'll enjoy this "professional" (sort of) review of Exodus:

http://www.unionsverlag.com/info/link.asp?link_id=4465&pers_id=1717&pic=../portrait/LaorYitzhak.jpg&tit=Yitzhak%20Laor

"....Leon Uris himself would not have written the book had he not been endowed with a considerable amount of the "new" type of Zionism. When "Exodus" was first published, Uris was interviewed and said: "There is a whole school of Jewish American writers who spend their time damning their fathers, hating their mothers, wringing their hands and wondering why they were born." In the background, of course, are Philip Roth, Bernard Malamud, Saul Bellow and others. "This isn't art or literature," wrote Uris. "It's psychiatry. These writers are professional apologists. Every year you find one of their works on the best-seller lists. Their work is obnoxious and makes me sick to my stomach."

"Exodus," of course, is the antithesis to what he calls "obnoxious" literature: "I wrote `Exodus' because I was sick of apologizing - or feeling it was necessary to apologize. The Jewish community of this country has contributed far more greatly than its numbers - in art, in medicine and especially literature."


20 posted on 01/02/2006 2:04:23 PM PST by YaYa123
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The character Azaria played in the Warsaw ghetto, were he to survive, would have joined the Irgun or LEHI, not Ari's Hagganah.

Today the Presbyterian character would be organizing a boycott of Israel.

People may be surprised at the Arab Sheik character in the movie, that would side with Israel, is based in fact on some Arabs, most prominently on those from a small village outside Jerusalem called Abu Gosh, who sided with the Jews against their fellow Arabs for the creation of Israel.


21 posted on 01/02/2006 2:04:27 PM PST by Sabramerican
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Dalton Trumbo, one of the infamous "Hollywood Ten", wrote the screenplay for this film.


22 posted on 01/02/2006 2:05:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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"Exodus" is an excellent movie depicting the struggle by the Jews to establish the nation of Israel. A must see film, IMO.


25 posted on 01/02/2006 2:08:32 PM PST by afnamvet
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"Exodus" was made in 1960, only 12 years after the U.N. voted to allow a separate state of Israel. Somehow, liberal revisionist history had not yet taken over Hollywood and here came a film that made the struggle for an idependent state a righteous battle, not a "mistake" as Tony Kushner, screenwriter of "Munich" has said.

You have to understand that in 1960, Israel was considered to be "good" by the American left for two reasons.

1. The original Zionists (Ben Gurian, et. al.) were economic socialists who were creating "cooperative" farms the Kabotizes (sp?) etc. that fit well with Marxist and Hollywood ideology.

2. In 1948, the Soviet Union supported the creation of the state of Israel at the UN because they saw them a.) fighting the British and b.) as fellow socialists.

The Soviet support did not begin to change until the mid 60s when they saw the opportunity to disrupt the growing flow of Mideast oil to the west by sponsoring terrorists like Arafat and corrupt totalitarian secular regimes in Egypt, Syria and Iraq, turning all three into client states. Additionally, the Israelis began to move away from overt socialism and embrace a more mixed economy, disappointing Hollywood socialists.

Once the Soviets finally changed their tune totally on Israel by the mid 1970s, Hollywood began to change their "scripts" too.

26 posted on 01/02/2006 2:10:08 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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I worked as an usher in a theater in Pittsburgh (a reserve seat theater which of course no longer exists) when Exodus was showing. I saw it probably 20 times. It has left a deep feeling in me that has never left. Anytime I hear the Exodus theme all of the memories come back. Of course hollywood would never make a movie like this today.


27 posted on 01/02/2006 2:12:57 PM PST by jimbergin
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This film is on our required viewing list for World History. Yes, it's long (it takes up a whole homeschool day), but I let the kids sing "Hava Nagela"(sp?) when they need a break. I really enjoy history class!
31 posted on 01/02/2006 2:15:11 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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Another great film from the 1960's that heroically depicts the Israeli struggle for independence is 'Cast a Giant Shadow'.. Its a true story about an American colonel who helped train the IDF. Kirk Douglas is cast as the American Colonel, David Marcus. I believe that Col Marcus is buried in Israel and the IDF views him as a founding father.
35 posted on 01/02/2006 2:16:34 PM PST by Reily (Reilly (Dr Doom))
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Believe it or not, I only saw "Exodus" for the first time last night. Wow. I can't believe Hollywood ever had a kind word for Israel, especially considering the current prevailing attitude, as portrayed in Spielberg's "Munich."

hard to believe but the old moguls treated Christians favorably too.

i miss them...nearly all of em were Jews...and not exactly religious Jews either....imagine

36 posted on 01/02/2006 2:16:55 PM PST by wardaddy (If they don't own at least one pick-up, then they need to be watched closely)
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