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To: Cinnamon Girl
"Exodus" was made in 1960, only 12 years after the U.N. voted to allow a separate state of Israel. Somehow, liberal revisionist history had not yet taken over Hollywood and here came a film that made the struggle for an idependent state a righteous battle, not a "mistake" as Tony Kushner, screenwriter of "Munich" has said.

You have to understand that in 1960, Israel was considered to be "good" by the American left for two reasons.

1. The original Zionists (Ben Gurian, et. al.) were economic socialists who were creating "cooperative" farms the Kabotizes (sp?) etc. that fit well with Marxist and Hollywood ideology.

2. In 1948, the Soviet Union supported the creation of the state of Israel at the UN because they saw them a.) fighting the British and b.) as fellow socialists.

The Soviet support did not begin to change until the mid 60s when they saw the opportunity to disrupt the growing flow of Mideast oil to the west by sponsoring terrorists like Arafat and corrupt totalitarian secular regimes in Egypt, Syria and Iraq, turning all three into client states. Additionally, the Israelis began to move away from overt socialism and embrace a more mixed economy, disappointing Hollywood socialists.

Once the Soviets finally changed their tune totally on Israel by the mid 1970s, Hollywood began to change their "scripts" too.

26 posted on 01/02/2006 2:10:08 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Ditto

Good points.


29 posted on 01/02/2006 2:14:22 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Ditto
Re: 26,

The most accurate analysis is yours. Extreme socilalism/communism is what Hollywood is all about, not Jewishness. Hollywood promotes communism by and large and has since the twenties. This plague never rests and will attack any who move away from communism or are successful using capitalist endeavors.

61 posted on 01/02/2006 2:44:56 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Happy New Year FReepers.)
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To: Ditto
Once the Soviets finally changed their tune totally on Israel by the mid 1970s, Hollywood began to change their "scripts" too.

Are you saying that the 'House Unamerican Activities Committee' was right about Hollywood?

114 posted on 01/02/2006 4:52:16 PM PST by fella ("(News) should be the maximum of information & minimum of comment." - Cobden)
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To: Ditto
1. The original Zionists (Ben Gurian, et. al.) were economic socialists who were creating "cooperative" farms the Kabotizes (sp?) etc. that fit well with Marxist and Hollywood ideology.
The original Zionists were classical liberal. They were joined by Socialists of various stripes, the religeous, and by nationalists.
The movie Exodus shows one of the ideological differences between the socialist and Revisionist (Nationalist) camps in comparing the member of the Hagannah with that of the Irgun (Etzel was formed by Jabotinsky's revisionist followers.)

The Soviet support did not begin to change until the mid 60s when they saw the opportunity to disrupt the growing flow of Mideast oil to the west by sponsoring terrorists like Arafat and corrupt totalitarian secular regimes in Egypt, Syria and Iraq, turning all three into client states. Additionally, the Israelis began to move away from overt socialism and embrace a more mixed economy, disappointing Hollywood socialists.
Actually, Stalin turned on Israel and Zionists around 1950, just as he began plotting to tertiate Soviet Jewry by sending it to Siberia.

126 posted on 01/02/2006 5:47:30 PM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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