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1 posted on 12/20/2005 3:56:48 AM PST by unionblue83
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To: unionblue83

If they want to spy on suspicious persons, then IS IT NOT TRUE that they have over ten million illegal immigrants to start with?

You folks just don't get it. There are tens of thousands of people that come into the country daily. There are many, many thousands of uninspected rail cars that come in. Not to mention the foreign ships that dock.

Why is it all the sudden that Americans need to be spied on?


2 posted on 12/20/2005 4:02:52 AM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: unionblue83
The "U.S. person" definition "does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power," according to the same law. An "agent of a foreign power" is anyone, citizen or otherwise, who "knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power." Which means that people who do not help al-Qaeda or other terrorists are safe from surveillance. Anyone who does, however, forfeits his rights and can be targeted for eavesdropping.

Isn't this a traitor too? What will it take for people to understand we have enemies and spys among us!? What voice of reason will the people hear? How many more REAL Americans must die, before we deal with the enemy within?

3 posted on 12/20/2005 4:10:15 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: lugsoul

Read this


6 posted on 12/20/2005 4:16:52 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: unionblue83

From the article:

"Congress could clear the confusion with an unmistakeable formal declaration of war on radical Islamist terrorism. Congressmen who sit on the intelligence committee could detail just how much they know and how long they've known it; it seems clear that several of the critics had prior knowledge of the program. In an era of airport searches and bomb-sniffing dogs, should a suspicious telephone call to Iran or Algeria be exempt from the war on terror? "

I am going to write my Senators/Congressmen today and suggest this very thing.."A FORMAL DECLARATION OF WAR ON ISLAMIC TERRORISTS". Besides the obvious point that it is needed, we need to hold Congress's feet to the fire on this issue. Get them on record. Al Qaeda declared WAR ON THE US in 1998. Are we going to DECLARE WAR in return or not?


9 posted on 12/20/2005 4:19:16 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: unionblue83
Thus far liberals in the legislative and judicial branch have not made it a civil right to belong or fund al-Qaeda terrorists organizations. But they sure sound like they are planning on making it a civil right.
11 posted on 12/20/2005 4:21:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: frankjr

I thought you'd be interested in this article which details just how, according to which law, the president can do what he's doing.


19 posted on 12/20/2005 4:32:47 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: unionblue83

I find it interesting that the only senators running to the media microphones to try to put distance between themselves and this latest assault on Bush are . . . . . . . those with 'Ds' after their names.

If cowardice had a nickname, it would be Democrat. These pathetic excuses for human beings were on the inside track with this, they knew/know it has gone on for many, MANY years and suddenly, thanks to the traitors at the NYT, they think they have another issue to bash Bush with.

Everyday, I become more and more disgusted with the traitorous, lying, backstabbers in the Dem Party. These people can't go away fast enough. Hopefully, after they have finished splintering the country and we have parted ways, the moonbats who follow them to the new socialist utopialand will become the new illegal aliens - battering down every obstacle we erect to keep them on THEIR side of the fence.

And, doubtless, 50 years hence, the ragged remnants of what was once a patriotic political party will STILL be blaming Bush.


21 posted on 12/20/2005 4:46:12 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: unionblue83
Our only quibble: The National Security Agency's Echelon project spied on "trillions" of American citizens' conversations during the Clinton administration.

And boy were Freepers pissed. But the times, they are a changin'.

22 posted on 12/20/2005 4:49:32 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Peach; nopardons; onyx; Petronski

ping


26 posted on 12/20/2005 5:01:58 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? --- Victory is not a strategy.)
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To: unionblue83
An "agent of a foreign power" is anyone, citizen or otherwise, who "knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power." Which means that people who do not help al-Qaeda or other terrorists are safe from surveillance. Anyone who does, however, forfeits his rights and can be targeted for eavesdropping.

That clarifies the issue for me. I'm all for supporting Bush on this issue.

31 posted on 12/20/2005 5:06:20 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (iLiberals and MSM manipulate the news.)
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To: unionblue83

From Frontpage I offer this link to a disturbing socialist front org called Background Campaign which could suck a lot of people in.

the current page:

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7228


36 posted on 12/20/2005 5:18:26 AM PST by larryjohnson
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To: unionblue83
The Democrats are trading the lives of our soldiers and the safety of the U.S. civilian population for left wing votes.

Saddam murdered to secure his position as a political leader, the Democrats prefer to murder by proxy by preventing our president from using his ability to thwart our enemy and at the same time encouraging the enemy to carry on the fight against our soldiers.

Treacherous, scandalous, cowardly, treasonous, traitors who present a clear and dangerous assault on the freedom we all cherish that our soldiers are putting their lives on the line to defend every day and every minute.

I despise these people with every fiber in my body.
37 posted on 12/20/2005 5:19:23 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: unionblue83

CIA directed in 1995 to seek Video Pirates
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ba75bb5147c.htm


53 posted on 12/20/2005 3:56:12 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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