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OH MY (60 minutes Echelon exposed transcript Feb 27th, 2000)
NRO ^ | Mark (the great one) Levin

Posted on 12/18/2005 7:57:09 PM PST by hipaatwo

What's this?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; carnivore; echelon; mikefrost; msmspies; msmtraitors; nsa; patriotleak; shootthetraitors; spies; spying; surveillance; traitors; x42
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To: MJY1288
They (our so-called government) says that Echelon has been discontinued.

Does ANYBODY believe them?


101 posted on 12/19/2005 6:39:39 AM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: hford02
Thanks for the link. Do have any info on the misplaced 900 FBI files? I was hoping to get the NYT to finally launch and expose on that one.

The way congress has been acting I would submit they are still out there being used.

102 posted on 12/19/2005 6:42:12 AM PST by Liberal Bob (http://newsreak.com)
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To: unixfox; Petruchio
Of course it's been "discontinued"........

That's Washington-DC-speak for "The program has been renamed but we're not telling anybody about that."

103 posted on 12/19/2005 6:47:14 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: msnimje

But that's different. You see that was Willard. See the difference?


104 posted on 12/19/2005 7:29:52 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: unixfox

nope.. not for a second. it just went deeper underground


105 posted on 12/19/2005 7:38:37 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: hipaatwo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/227921/posts

Way back before Bush was elected, there were lots of Echelon threads.


106 posted on 12/19/2005 8:26:52 AM PST by fishtank
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Yes, I remember when people on the internet used to use all the forbidden words that Echelon was tuned to intercept, such as clinton, Mena Airport, boys on the railroad tracks, Vincent Foster, Fort Marcy Park, Waco, Ron Brown, Monica, and the like, just to give them more to do.


107 posted on 12/19/2005 8:42:25 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: OXENinFLA
Let's also not forget the satellite used to monitor events at Elohim City prior to the OKC bombing (during the Clinton Admin) and COINTELPRO.

Truth is...the Government has been spying on citizens for decades. Only when it involves Bush are they outraged.

108 posted on 12/19/2005 8:45:10 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Can anyone point out the one difference between Echelon and Santa's Nauty/Nice program version 4.2?


109 posted on 12/19/2005 8:49:38 AM PST by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: AmeriBrit
There must be no "substantial likelihood" that the intercepted communications include those to which a U.S. person is a party.

Does "US person" mean US citizen or anyone, citizen or not, in the US at the time of the surveillance? This sentence of the law confuses me, because it seems to contradict the belief that this eavesdropping is legal under this law. Not that I'm losing any sleep of this whole "scandal" but I want to make sure I understand it correctly. Well, let me rephrase - I'll lose more sleep over it being leaked than the fact that the NSA is listening to some bad people.
110 posted on 12/19/2005 8:59:20 AM PST by elc
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To: elc; AmeriBrit
Nevermind. Someone just posted this article that explains it. New York Post
111 posted on 12/19/2005 9:10:01 AM PST by elc
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To: TruthNtegrity

Marking to read later.


112 posted on 12/19/2005 12:35:42 PM PST by TruthNtegrity
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To: AliVeritas; kristinn

Thank you for reminding me about those nasty Clinton days.

Thank God they are dust in the wind.


113 posted on 12/19/2005 7:39:20 PM PST by japaneseghost (()
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To: unixfox

Irrespective of whether the program continues (I can almost guarantee it does), the NYTimes, et al, has rendered it all but useless except to the stupidest of terrorists. This was a huge weapon of intelligence that has had its teeth yanked out.


114 posted on 12/19/2005 10:12:50 PM PST by alancarp (Will hack code for oil)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Richard Poe; gonzo
Good afternoon.

PING for a trip down FR Memory Lane.

Memory lane...I remember when i42 and his administration were investigating FReepers, and sending the FBI, USSS, local sheriff, etc. to FReeper's homes.

And I also remember a concerted effort by FReepers back then to overload Echelon and Carnivore's servers.

8^)

In the fwiw department, I can't think of ONE FReeper who's been rousted since W. has been in office.

5.56mm

115 posted on 12/20/2005 9:59:57 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: hipaatwo

bttt


116 posted on 12/20/2005 10:00:46 AM PST by NeoCaveman (The United States Senate is the best argument for a unicameral legislature)
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