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Is Commodore poised for a comeback?
ZDNet ^ | December 16, 2005 | Ina Fried

Posted on 12/16/2005 2:15:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

It may be time for a Commodore comeback.

No, Lionel Ritchie isn't signing up with his old band. We're talking about Commodore, the venerable computer brand.

A Dutch consumer media company is hoping it can tap the power of the VIC 20, the PET and the Commodore 64 to launch a new wave of products, including a home media center device and a portable GPS unit and media player.

Yeahronimo Media Ventures, which has offices in Los Angeles and Baarn, the Netherlands, acquired the rights to the Commodore name late last year in a deal worth just over $32.7 million. Earlier this year, it took on Commodore as its own corporate moniker. The rebranded company already has some products available on its Web site, but hopes to make a bigger splash at the Computer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in January.

"We are excited to be launching our initial offerings at this year's CES," Commodore CEO Ben van Wijhe said in a statement. He said that the three new products will both advance the well-known brand as well as "uphold the world-class quality of yesteryear's Commodore products."

The company has said it plans to launch three products at the show. The Commodore MediaBox is an all-in-one home entertainment box with an Internet connection, digital TV tuner and hard drive for playing music downloads, games or on-demand video. The Commodore Navigator is a Windows CE-based portable device with a 20GB hard drive for music and video storage as well as built-in GPS and a 3.6-inch touch screen.

"Never before has a brand come out of hibernation and truly reinvented itself to position competitively in an ever-evolving digital media marketplace," van Wijhe said.

This is far from the first attempted comeback in tech, however. The Amiga, Commodore's onetime PC brand, has had its own decades-long history as fans tried to preserve both the computer's operating system and brand despite the lack of strong corporate backing.

Gateway had hopes of reinvigorating the Amiga PC when it bought the name and technology in 1997, but eventually scrapped its plans and sold the brand in 1999. Efforts to keep the computer's OS alive, however, have continued into the current decade.

Another '80s game name, Atari, bounced among several owners before making a comeback earlier this decade. Gamemaker Infogrames acquired Atari's name and game titles in 2001 and began using Atari as its own corporate name in May 2003. Meanwhile, Atari's classic games have also found new life in low-end TV consoles and cell phones.

Napster is perhaps one of the best-known recent transformations, with an authorized music subscription service taking on the brand built as the first of many rebel peer-to-peer file sharing systems.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 80s; amiga; business; c64; commodore; commodore64; computers; netherlands; pet; vic20
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To: Larry Lucido
Found it at school in 1990 1980, so could be older than 1990 1980.

I'm forgetting how old I am. :)

121 posted on 12/16/2005 9:46:28 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: nickcarraway

I heard a story, don't know how true it is.

A fellows father had died. The guy goes to his dads house, and finds in the garage, two brand new, sealed in the box Trash-80
s.

The dude unloaded them both on E-bay for like 10K apiece.


122 posted on 12/16/2005 9:46:40 PM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: nickcarraway

Breaking News: General Motors has bought the rights to the name Conestoga Wagon, and will go into production in 2007.


123 posted on 12/16/2005 9:53:01 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: grey_whiskers
My H-8 (with Trionyx Z80/Trionyx 64K DRAM/Trionyx backplane) is still functional. The smart 8 inch drives still work. I stopped writing C code on that machine in 1983 after banging the head off one of the Remex drives. It cost $160 to repair the drive. Cheap compared to the initial acquisition cost of $2500 for the drive package. An upgrade to the TRS80 Model 16A running Xenix made a more viable development platform. I ported David Korn's shell to that platform on multiple releases and found a fair number of bugs. Getting a confirmatory e-mail from David Korn on a found bug was quite a treat. That machine is still here and running too.

My VIC20 still works, but I only have about 20 game cartridges for it. It was pretty good for the time.

124 posted on 12/16/2005 10:17:30 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: sadimgnik
Being a complete wuss, I'm afraid of modding my Xbox.

Of course, if you'd tell me, hypothetically, how such a process could be, well, potentially, done, I might research such a potentiality.

In my perfect world, someone would just put a crapload of games on a disc and sell them to hungry old-style gamers like me.
125 posted on 12/16/2005 10:26:06 PM PST by IslandJeff (Jumpman Lives!)
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To: yarddog

I remember the earliest games Robots and a Star Trek role playing game. We thought those were the coolest things going, until Pong came along. lol


126 posted on 12/16/2005 10:31:32 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: Baraonda

1973 was when I first saw a TI calculator like in the picture. I couldn't actually own one because $150.00 was hard to come by for a 16 year old. By 1980 they had become commonplace - quite a fast transition.

In fact, I remember the novelty of the digital watch running its course then. From the impractical red led ones that cost $60.00 to the calculator watches that ran around $150.00, and you had to carry a pen around to use them. Anyone who had an extra hundred fifty dollars was determined to impress everyone with his ability to calculate the tip at dinner. :-)


127 posted on 12/16/2005 10:40:41 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

And then in 1986 everyone with an extra $50.00 had those credit card sized 2k electronic address books. I was smart - I waited until they came down to $30.00! Never used the damn thing. LOL!


128 posted on 12/16/2005 10:42:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: supercat; Blood of Tyrants
Since 1977, games have grown in size A MILLIONFOLD.

But how much of that is graphics and CD-quality music in an average 2005-era game? Actually, I guess the question is better the other way around: What size is the actual underlying game engine in an average game of today?

129 posted on 12/16/2005 10:42:51 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: Larry Lucido
And then in 1986 everyone with an extra $50.00 had those credit card sized 2k electronic address books

Guilty as charged. Was supposed to help me get through college.

I have a tricked out Palm these days that I still don't use but just Had To Have. Whatever.
130 posted on 12/16/2005 10:49:02 PM PST by IslandJeff
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To: beezdotcom
Connection to what?

Remember Q-Link "Quantum Link"... When I called to cancel they tried to get me to sign up for their new product...America Online.


131 posted on 12/16/2005 10:54:55 PM PST by AgentEcho (If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers)
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To: IslandJeff

I'll wait until they get down to $20.00, then buy one to use as a paperweight for all my sticky notes.


132 posted on 12/16/2005 10:56:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
then buy one to use as a paperweight for all my sticky notes

No kidding. I'd like to think my Palm V (and my Handspring shortly thereafter) is maybe helping someone in the Third World. OTOH, an enterprising, under-budgeted tech dork might now have a few old phone numbers of a few dates long-forgotten.

Just desserts, in any case.

Long Live Low Tech!
133 posted on 12/16/2005 11:03:28 PM PST by IslandJeff
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To: Baraonda

The IBM 5120 used the big floopys that help about on college term paper worth of info.


134 posted on 12/17/2005 3:22:09 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I miss my dad.)
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To: IslandJeff

Ah - modding an xbox is easy (although I had mine done by people who are better with a soldering iron than me).

I understand there are now even solderless mod-chips (http://www.xbox-modchips.com/tutorials.html)

Once the xbox is modded, there are a squillion open-source programs that open the xbox to fulfill its potential.

Mine, for example, is plugged into my home network router.

That means I can use X-Box-Media-Centre (a software addon) to play any media (audio, video, images, etc) that is on any of the hard drives on any of the PCs in the house.

As an example, I often download TV shows that won't air here for months (if ever) to my PC - and then play them on the big-screen TV in the family room via the xbox using XBMC

I can also make safety back-ups of Xbox games to my HDD, play movie trailers on the TV set in the family room (because the X-box is also connected to the 'net via the router) and even listen to shoutcast stations.

Other software that's easily available includes emulators and even an RSS-feed reader, so I can get news crawls from a variety of sources.

Of course, if you don't have an X-Box, there are emulators available for the PC - turning your super-fast hyperthreading dual-core beast into an Atari of C64 :-)

Just do a search for MAME, or m.a.m.e ... Multi-Arcade-Machine-Emulator.

Regards

Sadim




135 posted on 12/17/2005 9:19:30 PM PST by sadimgnik
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To: RadioAstronomer
I have an original 1st gen Atari Pong machine sitting next to my Xbox360. Quite a contrast.

Now why doesn't that surprise me?

136 posted on 12/17/2005 11:21:16 PM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
... XP takes 6 CD's

Every one of the dozens of Windows XP installations I have ever performed, including Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition, has come on a single CD-ROM. The initial install is about 1.5 GB, uncompressed.

That said, I agree with your statement about Windows sucking the life out of a computer. "What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away." :-/

137 posted on 12/19/2005 9:47:01 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: TChris

Check again. I believe that it is a DVD, not a CD, but I could be wrong. Anyway, the HP machine had the HD sectioned with XP copied to the "D" drive. It allowed one copy of the D drive as a backup. It required one DVD or 6 CD's.


138 posted on 12/19/2005 9:53:54 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It allowed one copy of the D drive as a backup. It required one DVD or 6 CD's.

I'm thinking there must be more than just Windows XP on that D: drive copy. For example, did they include Microsoft Office in the package as well?

System requirements for Windows XP operating systems

The minimum hardware requirements for Windows XP Home Edition are:
  • Pentium 233-megahertz (MHz) processor or faster (300 MHz is recommended)
  • At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM (128 MB is recommended)
  • At least 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available space on the hard disk
  • CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
  • Keyboard and a Microsoft Mouse or some other compatible pointing device
  • Video adapter and monitor with Super VGA (800 x 600)or higher resolution
  • Sound card
  • Speakers or headphones

139 posted on 12/19/2005 9:59:07 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Playstation 3 news :

Playstation 3 Launch Titles Officially Announced

And BBC says it's online network will have a customized Opera browser.....

How close are we getting to some of these old classics like the Amigo?

140 posted on 10/20/2006 9:23:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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