Posted on 12/12/2005 8:01:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Occasionally a social issue becomes so ubiquitous that almost everyone wants to talk about it -- even well-meaning but uninformed pundits. For example, Charles Krauthammer preaches that religious conservatives should stop being so darn, well, religious, and should accept his whitewashed version of religion-friendly Darwinism.1 George Will prophesies that disagreements over Darwin could destroy the future of conservatism.2 Both agree that intelligent design is not science.
It is not evident that either of these critics has read much by the design theorists they rebuke. They appear to have gotten most of their information about intelligent design from other critics of the theory, scholars bent on not only distorting the main arguments of intelligent design but also sometimes seeking to deny the academic freedom of design theorists.
In 2001, Iowa State University astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez’s research on galactic habitable zones appeared on the cover of Scientific American. Dr. Gonzalez’s research demonstrates that our universe, galaxy, and solar system were intelligently designed for advanced life. Although Gonzalez does not teach intelligent design in his classes, he nevertheless believes that “[t]he methods [of intelligent design] are scientific, and they don't start with a religious assumption.” But a faculty adviser to the campus atheist club circulated a petition condemning Gonzalez’s scientific views as merely “religious faith.” Attacks such as these should be familiar to the conservative minorities on many university campuses; however, the response to intelligent design has shifted from mere private intolerance to public witch hunts. Gonzalez is up for tenure next year and clearly is being targeted because of his scientific views.
The University of Idaho, in Moscow, Idaho, is home to Scott Minnich, a soft-spoken microbiologist who runs a lab studying the bacterial flagellum, a microscopic rotary engine that he and other scientists believe was intelligently designed -- see "What Is Intelligent Design.") Earlier this year Dr. Minnich testified in favor of intelligent design at the Kitzmiller v. Dover trial over the teaching of intelligent design. Apparently threatened by Dr. Minnich’s views, the university president, Tim White, issued an edict proclaiming that “teaching of views that differ from evolution ... is inappropriate in our life, earth, and physical science courses or curricula.” As Gonzaga University law professor David DeWolf asked in an editorial, “Which Moscow is this?” It’s the Moscow where Minnich’s career advancement is in now jeopardized because of his scientific views.
Scientists like Gonzalez and Minnich deserve not only to be understood, but also their cause should be defended. Conservative champions of intellectual freedom should be horrified by the witch hunts of academics seeking to limit academic freedom to investigate or objectively teach intelligent design. Krauthammer’s and Will’s attacks only add fuel to the fire.
By calling evolution “brilliant,” “elegant,” and “divine,” Krauthammer’s defense of Darwin is grounded in emotional arguments and the mirage that a Neo-Darwinism that is thoroughly friendly towards Western theism. While there is no denying the possibility of belief in God and Darwinism, the descriptions of evolution offered by top Darwinists differ greatly from Krauthammer’s sanitized version. For example, Oxford zoologist Richard Dawkins explains that “Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.” In addition, Krauthammer’s understanding is in direct opposition to the portrayal of evolution in biology textbooks. Says Douglas Futuyma in the textbook Evolutionary Biology:
“By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous.”3
“Evolution in a pure Darwinian world has no goal or purpose: the exclusive driving force is random mutations sorted out by natural selection from one generation to the next. … However elevated in power over the rest of life, however exalted in self-image, we were descended from animals by the same blind force that created those animals. …”5
Mr. Luskin is an attorney and published scientist working with the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Wash.
I thought it was called "Petitio Principii" or some such. Either way, I'm not sure how it applies to the assertion that intelligent design works well as a theory due to the extensive presence of organized matter that behaves according to predictable laws. Of course the evidence is indirect. Most of the evidence science enjoys is indirect. Anyway, maybe you could point out to me what this has to do with my spouse?
Nope. I've worked with, and remained faithful to, the common definition of both. Maybe you could assist in the discussion by describing what happens when an object is intelligently designed and implemented.
And that question is "When did you stop raping little boys?" It puts everbody on an equal footing.
Wells is a Moonie whose rejection of evolution is a result of his devotion to the Unification Church and his conviction that the Reverend Sun-Myung Moon is the second coming of the Messiah. Stephen Meyer is a hiistorian/philosopher. William Lane Craig is a theologian.
So you're one for three, and the one is a cultist.
It's a well established term in animal behavior, nothing to do with sociobabble. It means engaging in behavior that is immediately neutral or harmful in exchange for reciprocal behavior that is beneficial.
You think a killdeer that puts her life in danger to draw predators away from her chicks does so because she was raised Catholic?
No, it's not well established, it is controversial. And easy to see why, the contradiction in terms must be unpalatable for all but the most devoted reductionists.
Kin selection is much better established which is what you are referring to below but I'd be happy to discuss that with you as well.
You think a killdeer that puts her life in danger to draw predators away from her chicks does so because she was raised Catholic?
Certainly not but when the killdeer jumps in the ice to save another killdeers chicks, you can get back to me because then I will suspect the killdeer did have some training by Catholic parents.
Spoil sport. You're too nice. :)
Logical fallacies have latin names. Those used to structured debate generally learn them by those names. You've probably heard of the more common ones, like ad hominem. Petitio Principii is also known as "begging the question" or "circular reasoning." It is related to "complex question" as both are logical fallacies of presumption. "Loaded question" is also related.
, I'm not sure how it applies to the assertion that intelligent design works well as a theory
Because your statements supporting organized matter (indeed, everything) being the result of a designer presume the designer, and even the designing itself. Thus, it is a fallacy of presumption. I had hoped that you'd see the obvious connection with the wife-beating question (it presumes without evidence that you beat your wife) as Alamo Girl did, and probably everybody else, but they were mean/nice enough to let me continue. Obviously I was wrong.
Of course they do, much as a result presumes a cause, and a cause presumes a result. Circular reasoning would say in effect "there is a designer because there is a designer." Linear reasoning says "there is a designer because there are designed things." Insert the theory of evolution into the same framework, and see what presumptions are also assumed true. The theory of evolution is not discarded as a non-theory on that account, nor should it be.
Here is a non-rigorous form
1. Humans create order.
2. Humans are intelligent agents
3. Therefore only intelligent agents create order
Do we rely on your authority as an animal behaviorist, here, or do you have some actual evidence?
Cleaner fish engage in reciprocal altruism. So do vampire bats, chimpanzees, etc. These are all well-established examples that don't involve kin. All you have against are your own peculiar prejudices
A novel approach thinking for oneself, eh?
That makes me the fool for wasting my time.
Let's keep things in order here Prof.
Evidence for "kin selection" = 40,000,000 aborted babies. Good evidence?
So ID/Creationiwm hasn't yet broken the Steve barrier?
Come to think of it, it may not have. I can't think of a creationist Steve.
There is no difference between reality and unreality.
There is
placemarker
The Steve barrier being that more people support your position? Majority, like might, doesn't make right.
Obviously listing more scientists won't influence your position. You guys don't even allow someone with a viewpoint that doesn't match your own a seat at the table.
My position remains that there are many scientists who don't share your certitude that the evolution explains the origin of life on this planet.
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