[davidosborne]

Looking for some help...

[Cindy]

Contact HSLDA.org and talk to them.

http://www.hslda.org

[MJY1288]

I would bet that many of the "Homeschoolers" don't need recruiting, they volunteer all on their own

[coconutt2000]

Isn't parental permission sufficient?

[concerned about politics]

Department of Defense Applies New Equal Access Policy for Homeschoolers

Everything else you may want to know about (Home School Legal Defence Org -- http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/Issues/U/USMilitary.asp)

[MJY1288]

Home schooled children are tested and are given the same status as publicly educated children as far as I know, Would not a GED (General Education Diploma) do the same as a Public school diploma?

[org.whodat]

The problem is that homeschool requirements change from state to state. Most state's require that the student take test's to prove they are being educated. the results of these test for what would be the senior year is what you are looking for. Same paper is required for a home schooler to go to college. You should talk to the local school board.

[billhilly]

Any kid who has to stay at home all through high schoold should be ready to fight anything.

[endthematrix]

http://reliableanswers.com/hs/mil.asp

A quick search found that one can produce a transcript. Or some have accredited their school. A guess state guidelines may apply.

[octobersky]

bttt

[freespirited]

I would call your Congressman or Senators. They will know the right person to call at the Pentagon.

That person in turn will tell a subordinate to find out what on earth is going on and fix it.

That should take care of it.

Definitely the kind of thing you handle from the top down IMO.

[davidosborne]

http://www.petitiononline.com/hr1815/petition.html

Interesting petition that sheds some light on this debate

[EricT.]

FWIW, when we home-schooled our kids we had to actually make up a name for our school. Of course, that was when we lived in Khalifornistan.

[davidosborne]

I FOUND SEC 522 in the SENATE version but not the HOUSE version.. aparently it will be addressed in conference.. possible action when they come back after the recess..

S.1042 Title: An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2006 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe personnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Warner, John [VA] (introduced 5/17/2005) Cosponsors (None) Related Bills: H.R.1815, S.1043, S.1044, S.1045 Latest Major Action: 12/6/2005 Held at the desk. Senate Reports: 109-69 Note: On 11/15/2005, the Senate substituted the language of S. 1042, as amended, in H.R. 1815. See H.R. 1815 for further action on the FY2006 Defense Authorization bill.

 

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S.1042

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 (Public Print)

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SEC. 522. RECRUITMENT AND ENLISTMENT OF HOME SCHOOLED STUDENTS IN THE ARMED FORCES.

(a) Policy on Recruitment and Enlistment-

(1) POLICY REQUIRED- The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe a policy on the recruitment and enlistment of home schooled students in the Armed Forces.

(2) UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE ARMED FORCES- The Secretary shall ensure that the policy prescribed under paragraph (1) applies, to the extent practicable, uniformly across the Armed Forces.

(b) Elements- The policy under subsection (a) shall include the following:

(1) An identification of a graduate of home schooling for purposes of recruitment and enlistment in the Armed Forces that is in accordance with the requirements described in subsection (c).

(2) Provision for the treatment of graduates of home schooling with no practical limit with regard to enlistment eligibility.

(3) An exemption of graduates of home schooling from the requirement for a secondary school diploma or an equivalent (GED) as a precondition for enlistment in the Armed Forces.

(c) Home School Graduates- In prescribing the policy, the Secretary of Defense shall prescribe a single set of criteria to be utilized by the Armed Forces in determining whether an individual is a graduate of home schooling. The Secretary concerned shall ensure compliance with education credential coding requirements.

(d) Secretary Concerned Defined- In this section, the term `Secretary concerned' has the meaning given such term in section 101(a)(9) of title 10, United States Code.

[Vineyard]

In the State of Washington, I don't think that there is any problem with kids taking the ASVAB.

Both of my sons were home-schooled, and both went to the local High School and took the ASVAB when in their 10th grade year. (The older boy got super high scores, and the recruiters were sorely disappointed to discover he was only 14.)

But as remarked elsewhere, a semester of college courses can alleviate any concerns about the academic record of a home-schooler. Another family I know had 2 children join the Marines, and both are doing fine. Both were home-schooled through 12th grade, and both did about 1 year of college courses at the local community college.

Sometimes, it might be necessary to get the GED. My daughter was offered a 4 year ROTC Scholarship (Navy, nursing program), but the 4 year college was willing to accept her if she did the GED (a minor condition, since she had 2 quarters of college courses.)

Parents can prepare a "high school transcript" ... and we had no problems with the transcript submitted for our older boy, when he started at the Naval Academy. (Of course, since he had 2 years of college courses via Running Start for his 11th and 12th grade year, and had a 3.93 GPA - with heavy math/physics and chem. courses ... no one could accuse the parents of hyping his high school grades when his college grades looked pretty good!)

Bottom line ... there are ways to work the system!! The biggest thing to remember is for the prospective recruit to get as much information to ensure he/she finds the best fit/program to match interests/desires and skills. Good SAT scores, good ASVAB scores, and perhaps some college courses will all help make an attractive package.

R/ Mike

[kalee]

We homeschooled through highschool and our son received lots of calls from recruiters, particularly Navy recruiters, his senior year. I always wondered where they got our son's name and number.
One of our son's friends, who was also homeschooled, is at West Point and our son was accepted at the Citadel.

[twstearman]

I think I can answer this. I am the Navy Liaison at a MEPS, so I've run into this before.

Recruiters don't like homeschoolers, period. Not because they are smarter, but the amount of legwork required. Homeschoolers have much more to prove in terms of documentation than a regular, joe-blow who just graduated from the town high school.

First of all, they are considered a Tier-II graduate, whilst Joe Blow above is a Tier-I. Think of it as a term for quality of education. We all know homeschoolers receive a much better quality education, but it's the Gummitt we're talking about.

Second, they'll need proof from the parents that they did hold school 180 days a year for x amount of years.

Third, they'll need proof from whatever State saying they've earned thier diploma (or will earn it within a year).

Now, Recruiters have to take all that to their District HQ and have their Education Specialist look into it. This can take 1 day, or 1 week. Once Edspec says good to go, begin processing applicant.

That's it in a nutshell, hope it helps.

[twstearman]

Oh, and that whole ASVAB line is BS. Parental permission is NOT required to take the ASVAB, either at a MEPS or MET site.

Parental permission is absolutely required before the physical can be conducted. No permission = no physical = no swear in. ASVABS are just fine, tho.

[savedbygrace]

No problem in NE Oklahoma, David. We are exceedingly proud to know several homeschooled young men who volunteered and are now serving. No worries here.