Posted on 12/08/2005 5:37:35 PM PST by sharkhawk
A plane has apparently crashed through a fence at Midway airport in Chicago. Southwest airline 737 plane now sitting in intersection of 55th and Central. Channel 7 has confirmed, fire and ambulances on way. Details still sketchy.
Yall will. Just look after this poor family.
Not sour grapes, I know lots of SW people and have been to their HQ, its a good airline.
But, you know damn well that Southwest is given all the best press.
An airline is republican?
Silly silly statement.
Jet Blue is facing some tough times ahead, loads of new costly planes coming in and nowhere to fly them, plus a helluva lot of D checks coming up on those formerly new planes. As for WN's safety record, they have killed 100% more people than America West or Jet Blue has, and they have run off the runway through a fence twice now, the safety record is no longer spotless. (still better than most airlines, AA plowed into a mountain because the pilot screwed up, UA ran out of gas and crashed in Portland because the pilot didn't pay attention, etc...)
Im not going to argue with you. Republican for the most part. most are former military pilots. Herb is conservative, as is Kelly.
We've KILLED 100% more? Get a grip! Jet Blue as been in service a fraction of the air time southwest has. America West...I have no argument there.
I see only that you want to argue so Im done here. Im not a debater. My husband is a pilot, I speak only as a spouse of a very happy employee of hardworking airline. One which came to the air of many of the folks stranded after Katrina and Rita. One which after 9/11 was the airline that DID NOT take the government hand out.
Im not sure what YOUR gripe is but Im sure you will air it.
The killed was a joke. No deaths on Jet Blue or America West, or Frontier for that matter. If you don't think Southwest hasn't taken handouts over the last 35 years, you are mistaken. The Wright amendment was written to protect Southwest, and they bought and paid off many a politician. America West owns McCain, and he got them the beyond perimiter DCA flights (which are VERY profitable).
Every airline does it, Southwest is about to enter some rough waters with their employees and contracts, and when the fuel hedge ends.
well, we could get you a quick flight into Midway - some flights apparently drop you directly in front of white castle - you just go down the emergency slide and place your order.
You need a refresher course on the Wright amendment
you have the facts wrong.
try this and come back when you have less of a grudge against Southwest.
www.fightwright.org
specifically:
Summary: The Wright Amendment is a FEDERAL LAW that was put in place a full six years after the opening of Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (DFW) to block long-haul flights out of nearby Love Field Airport. The sole purpose was to contain the then-small Southwest Airlines at Love Field while all the other airlines at DFW Airport figured out how to deal with deregulation which was causing airfare reductions across the rest of America.
That was twenty-five long years ago. Southwest Airlines has since become the number one domestic carrier in America, but still cannot offer nationwide service out of Love Field to the 5+ million citizens of North Texas because of the Wright Amendment. American holds a near monopoly over all nationwide traffic in and out of the region via DFW Airport, exactly what they accuse Southwest of having at Love Field. Squeezed in between are the flying public, trapped between an airline with little realistic competition that can fly anywhere and an airline with rational airfare that can't go beyond border states. Last year, DFW Airport processed nineteen times as many passengers as Love Field. Which monopoly is abusive? Please read this website, view the history/links, and judge for yourself the validity of the Wright Amendment.
Isn't it time people flying to & from the Dallas/Fort Worth region had real choices?
Yeah, and don't go thinking Herb didn't pay a few people to keep it around while it suited Southwest. It doesn't anymore, but it kept Southwest safe for years so they could grow.
You are too close to the SW koolaid.
I've never had a real slider in person, either--but I can tolerate the frozen cheeseburger ones the same way I tolerate McD's Happy Meal cheeseburgers--as appetizers. Cut into quarters, one little tidbit to pop in your mouth, seasoned however you want to.
But I wanted to tell you, after seeing your sigline that you have the very best onion burgers within somewhat of a not too long driving distance from you, if the place is still there.
J&W Grill in Chickasha -- the BEST you ever tasted, if you like grilled onions.
Gah! youve got to be a lawyer! I give up. Have another scotch and soda. Im really finished arguing with you! you must be a liberal, you seem to let facts take a back burner.
What utter BS - we drill for this type of incident regularly. I guarantee that lives were saved by the speed and skill of the firefighters and medics that responded.
This FF/EMT-P gets irritated by jerks like that.
Unless my memory is playing tricks on me (and it could very well be), wasn't Love Field turned into an entertainment complex for a while? I didn't live in Dallas, but I have a vague memory of that. Must have been before SW's lawsuit to put it back into service as an airport.
If memory serves me right tinytutu has the Wright thing correct. I worked for American Airlines and if I remember right a number of people talked about how American and Delta were so powerful they were going to be able to put Southwest out of business. Southwest just made lemonade out of lemons.
After I worked for American I worked for a LARGE travel agency. I came to appreciate Southwest and their dedication to customer service .. especially when you did NOT see it with the larger airlines.
Thanks for that, pamlet.
I don't see why some on here are using this tragedy as an opportunity to bash Southwest Airlines.
I don't get it either.. :<
I've never even flown them - as a travel agent - the agency I worked for had "deals" with Delta, AA and Continental mostly. But it was always a pleasure to have to call WN - I can't EVER remember a bad experience with them - and they always had the ability to FIX something right away without arguing... ALWAYS thanked us for our business!
I feel so bad for the family that lost the little boy .. I grew up only a mile from Midway, so this one hit pretty close to home...
Yes, but SW resisted all attempts in the 80's to repeal the amendment, because, by then they had it acting as a shelter, and they had nearly all flights out of LUV. They paid off congressmen to keep it that way.
As for service, no problems there, I used to non rev them all the time and I was treated quite well, its a good airline, but I wouldn't go cannonizing them.
I dare say ALL the airlines paid people off in some way or another..
The only reason other airlines wanted it repealed was because I believe they saw the WN business model and wanted a piece of the action.
Other than "payoffs" - which I really don't know anything about.. WN just went with a different business model when they were tied to DAL. It was just smart business.
I don't think anyone's canonizing them - they just don't need to be demonized.. especially when tragedy hits. An incident involving even one death brings such sadness to any airline... even down to the baggage handlers and res agents ALL the employees feel it.
Road trip! Of course I'll have to check and see if they're still in business. And it actually wouldn't be a road trip since I'm only about 25 miles due south from Chickasha.
Thanks for the tip. Ever since I've moved to Oklahoma I've been on a search for a good hamburger and good Mexican food. So far the best hamburger have been the one's we make on the grill. There's a pretty decent mexican food place over in Lawton called Sala's (think that's the name_
If Wright is repealed, do you think there will be more, less or the same amount of traffic at Love?
American is already looking into starting flights out of Love. The runways at Love are longer than those at Midway, but Love is surrounded by homes, business and major roads in a way that DFW isn't.
Not a liberal, why does every person on FR resort to calling someone a liberal when they lose an argument.
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