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Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
TIME.com ^ | Dec. 8, 2005 | Siobhan Morrissey

Posted on 12/08/2005 12:21:37 PM PST by Rennes Templar

A passenger on Flight 924 gives his account of the shooting and says Rigoberto Alpizar never claimed to have a bomb

By SIOBHAN MORRISSEY/MIAMI

At least one passenger aboard American Airlines Flight 924 maintains the federal air marshals were a little too quick on the draw when they shot and killed Rigoberto Alpizar as he frantically attempted to run off the airplane shortly before take-off.

"I don't think they needed to use deadly force with the guy," says John McAlhany, a 44-year-old construction worker from Sebastian, Fla. "He was getting off the plane." McAlhany also maintains that Alpizar never mentioned having a bomb.

"I never heard the word 'bomb' on the plane," McAlhany told TIME in a telephone interview. "I never heard the word bomb until the FBI asked me did you hear the word bomb. That is ridiculous." Even the authorities didn't come out and say bomb, McAlhany says. "They asked, 'Did you hear anything about the b-word?'" he says. "That's what they called it."

When the incident began McAlhany was in seat 24C, in the middle of the plane. "[Alpizar] was in the back," McAlhany says, "a few seats from the back bathroom. He sat down." Then, McAlhany says, "I heard an argument with his wife. He was saying 'I have to get off the plane.' She said, 'Calm down.'"

Alpizar took off running down the aisle, with his wife close behind him. "She was running behind him saying, 'He's sick. He's sick. He's ill. He's got a disorder," McAlhany recalls. "I don't know if she said bipolar disorder [as one witness has alleged]. She was trying to explain to the marshals that he was ill. He just wanted to get off the plane."

McAlhany described Alpizar as carrying a big backpack and wearing a fanny pack in front. He says it would have been impossible for Alpizar to lie flat on the floor of the plane, as marshals ordered him to do, with the fanny pack on. "You can't get on the ground with a fanny pack," he says. "You have to move it to the side."

By the time Alpizar made it to the front of the airplane, the crew had ordered the rest of the passengers to get down between the seats. "I didn't see him get shot," he says. "They kept telling me to get down. I heard about five shots."

McAlhany says he tried to see what was happening just in case he needed to take evasive action. "I wanted to make sure if anything was coming toward me and they were killing passengers I would have a chance to break somebody's neck," he says. "I was looking through the seats because I wanted to see what was coming.

"I was on the phone with my brother. Somebody came down the aisle and put a shotgun to the back of my head and said put your hands on the seat in front of you. I got my cell phone karate chopped out of my hand. Then I realized it was an official."

In the ensuing events, many of the passengers began crying in fear, he recalls. "They were pointing the guns directly at us instead of pointing them to the ground," he says "One little girl was crying. There was a lady crying all the way to the hotel."

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1lessloon; airlinesecurity; alpizar; bfd; dumcalhany; flight924; johnmcalhany; liar; mcalhany
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To: Rennes Templar
This moron's story doesn't hold water. For one thing he's sitting in the middle of the plane. How the hell does he know what's going on in the tail section? Exactly how does he exactly overhear the two talking? Even if they were loud? He's on a phone, why is listening to them?? Other witnesses said that the woman was yelling in SPANISH. Does this guy speak Spanish?

A shotgun? What Marshall is carrying a shotgun??? Check into this dufus and you'll find he's a card carrying CommuDem, probably a Union goon lefty who is now bragging about he saved everybody!

Too bad he wasn't the one shouting about a bomb!

441 posted on 12/08/2005 6:30:47 PM PST by Doc Savage ("Guys, I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more COWBELL...Bruce Dickinson)
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To: daybreakcoming

But of course now another passenger clearly states he never heard that. What happens when other passengers come forward? Should we to continue to believe agents of the state over private citizens?


442 posted on 12/08/2005 6:59:34 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Jigsaw John

Sounds like a reasonable alternative.
susie


443 posted on 12/08/2005 7:00:22 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: billbears

I suspect we will believe the preponderance of the evidence.
susie


444 posted on 12/08/2005 7:01:21 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Why talk to a EYEWITNESS when you need an EARWITNESS?


445 posted on 12/08/2005 7:11:28 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Rennes Templar
"I was on the phone with my brother. Somebody came down the aisle and put a shotgun to the back of my head and said put your hands on the seat in front of you. I got my cell phone karate chopped out of my hand. Then I realized it was an official."

I DIDN'T KNOW AIR MARSHALS CARRIED SHOTGUNS!


446 posted on 12/08/2005 7:12:01 PM PST by securityMama
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To: Rennes Templar
No. I clearly heard him say it was a BAH. He only said he had a "bah" in his backpack.
447 posted on 12/08/2005 7:16:12 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: securityMama
I DIDN'T KNOW AIR MARSHALS CARRIED SHOTGUNS!

I would suspect this was after the event or shooting, when other law enforcement officers entered the aircraft.

448 posted on 12/08/2005 7:25:55 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: brytlea

They are not.

They may not always be wrong but they are never wrong.


449 posted on 12/08/2005 7:30:55 PM PST by sport
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To: MRMEAN

I understand your point. I am referring to his behavior up to that point...when they shot him, it wasn't an isolated incident in time.


450 posted on 12/08/2005 7:36:13 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: cripplecreek
Yep, tomorrow this is going to get the full CNN treatment.

I know this has to be Bush's fault in some way.

451 posted on 12/08/2005 7:47:54 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: jdm

LOL


452 posted on 12/08/2005 7:52:36 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: Rakkasan1

'bumb' ---P. Sellers


453 posted on 12/08/2005 7:54:37 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: Bear_Slayer; windcliff

LOL!


454 posted on 12/08/2005 7:55:53 PM PST by stylecouncilor
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To: Rennes Templar

I bet dollars to donuts this guy McAlhany is a lying sack of sh_t.


455 posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:20 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: jdm
What about El Bombo?
456 posted on 12/08/2005 7:57:18 PM PST by reg45
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To: brytlea

me too


457 posted on 12/08/2005 8:00:15 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: Rennes Templar

BTTT


458 posted on 12/08/2005 8:11:27 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Pessimist
There was a lady crying all the way to the hotel.

Thank God the poor lady didn't have to go any further. She would have run out of tears.

;-)

459 posted on 12/08/2005 8:12:16 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: Rodney King
Maybe the stewardess was about to put Gigli on as the inflight movie, and the guy was pointing out that it was a bomb.

**

LOL

460 posted on 12/08/2005 8:13:46 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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