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Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
TIME.com ^ | Dec. 8, 2005 | Siobhan Morrissey

Posted on 12/08/2005 12:21:37 PM PST by Rennes Templar

A passenger on Flight 924 gives his account of the shooting and says Rigoberto Alpizar never claimed to have a bomb

By SIOBHAN MORRISSEY/MIAMI

At least one passenger aboard American Airlines Flight 924 maintains the federal air marshals were a little too quick on the draw when they shot and killed Rigoberto Alpizar as he frantically attempted to run off the airplane shortly before take-off.

"I don't think they needed to use deadly force with the guy," says John McAlhany, a 44-year-old construction worker from Sebastian, Fla. "He was getting off the plane." McAlhany also maintains that Alpizar never mentioned having a bomb.

"I never heard the word 'bomb' on the plane," McAlhany told TIME in a telephone interview. "I never heard the word bomb until the FBI asked me did you hear the word bomb. That is ridiculous." Even the authorities didn't come out and say bomb, McAlhany says. "They asked, 'Did you hear anything about the b-word?'" he says. "That's what they called it."

When the incident began McAlhany was in seat 24C, in the middle of the plane. "[Alpizar] was in the back," McAlhany says, "a few seats from the back bathroom. He sat down." Then, McAlhany says, "I heard an argument with his wife. He was saying 'I have to get off the plane.' She said, 'Calm down.'"

Alpizar took off running down the aisle, with his wife close behind him. "She was running behind him saying, 'He's sick. He's sick. He's ill. He's got a disorder," McAlhany recalls. "I don't know if she said bipolar disorder [as one witness has alleged]. She was trying to explain to the marshals that he was ill. He just wanted to get off the plane."

McAlhany described Alpizar as carrying a big backpack and wearing a fanny pack in front. He says it would have been impossible for Alpizar to lie flat on the floor of the plane, as marshals ordered him to do, with the fanny pack on. "You can't get on the ground with a fanny pack," he says. "You have to move it to the side."

By the time Alpizar made it to the front of the airplane, the crew had ordered the rest of the passengers to get down between the seats. "I didn't see him get shot," he says. "They kept telling me to get down. I heard about five shots."

McAlhany says he tried to see what was happening just in case he needed to take evasive action. "I wanted to make sure if anything was coming toward me and they were killing passengers I would have a chance to break somebody's neck," he says. "I was looking through the seats because I wanted to see what was coming.

"I was on the phone with my brother. Somebody came down the aisle and put a shotgun to the back of my head and said put your hands on the seat in front of you. I got my cell phone karate chopped out of my hand. Then I realized it was an official."

In the ensuing events, many of the passengers began crying in fear, he recalls. "They were pointing the guns directly at us instead of pointing them to the ground," he says "One little girl was crying. There was a lady crying all the way to the hotel."

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1lessloon; airlinesecurity; alpizar; bfd; dumcalhany; flight924; johnmcalhany; liar; mcalhany
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To: Doogle

Yep. But wow, my NBC station was just going over what democrats (with a picture of JFK) want for Iraq, and closed with


"It leaves democrats wanting the same thing Bush wants."

I just picked myself up off the floor. I've been hounding that point, myself.


341 posted on 12/08/2005 2:34:48 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: FreedomCalls

I'd like to see an 8" OAL shotgun chambered with five 3" rounds. I'll still stick with a semi with 10 rounds in the magazine.


342 posted on 12/08/2005 2:40:38 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Howlin
I predict this guy will run the table on talk shows tonight.

....he will be Allen Commes(sp) Lap Dog of the Week!

343 posted on 12/08/2005 2:46:02 PM PST by SweetCaroline ( "Don't Upset Me.....I'm Running Out Of Places To Hide The Bodies")
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To: wideawake

You mean that song was about a bomb???
susie


344 posted on 12/08/2005 2:47:50 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: areafiftyone
People who are BiPolar tend to see things and get paranoid.

Oh please, talk about hysterics, LOL...you make us all sound like a bunch of nutcases, we are not delusional, only those that have a severe manic episode go into psychosis, which is rare. Believe me, I know first hand...I was diagnosed as being schizophrenic as a child, but the diagnosis was a few years later changed to bipolar. I've lived with it all my life and never had a psychotic episode, I have had a very successful high-profile 20 year career and no one even realizes I have a problem. On the other hand, my daughter is also bipolar and has had bouts of severe mania that required hospitalization. A large number of bipolar people don't even realize they have a problem or that they have a family history of bipolar illness, we traced it back as far as my great grandmother. I understand that most lay people do not understand the condition, but watch the wide brush, will ya? The voices in my head might decide they don't like you, ROTFLMAO!

345 posted on 12/08/2005 2:49:28 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: wyattearp
It sounds to me like this guy was definitely NOT following the instructions of the officers, was instead doing exactly what they told him NOT to do (studying their procedures, talking on a cell phone), and he got their instructions explained to him in a more direct fashion.

Isn't it handy for the public how "cooperate with the air-marshalls" is so similar to "cooperate with the hijackers"?

346 posted on 12/08/2005 2:50:55 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

Yeah, I'm not that funny off the cuff either. That's why I don't get paid the big bux I guess! ;)
I had no idea Brian was ever on the radio. Goodness that must be painful to listen to! :D
susie


347 posted on 12/08/2005 2:52:39 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
houghts about the plane coming from Colombia aren't going through their mind.

I just don't understand how you know that.

susie

348 posted on 12/08/2005 2:56:14 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: MRMEAN
She was just saying her husband was sick, her husband was sick.'"

If my husband got up and tried to run off of an airplane, but had not said anything threatening, I doubt I would be telling people he was sick. I would just follow after him and try to stop him. Why would I feel I needed to explain hiim to anyone?

susie

349 posted on 12/08/2005 2:58:27 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Isn't it handy for the public how "cooperate with the air-marshalls" is so similar to "cooperate with the hijackers"?

If you actually think that, then you aren't too bright.

350 posted on 12/08/2005 2:58:34 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: d-back
All the guy can attest to is that he didn't hear the word bomb. And what does this have to do with Ruby Ridge, Elian, etc? Goodness, that's such a stretch.

susie

351 posted on 12/08/2005 3:06:06 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Recovering Hermit

LOL you put a picture in my head of the guy on True Lies who was trying to put the moves on Jaimie Lee Curtis, pretending ot be a spy!!
susie


352 posted on 12/08/2005 3:09:18 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: ravingnutter

Your post was interesting. I have been wondering if they had redefined schizophrenia.
susie


353 posted on 12/08/2005 3:11:17 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Howlin

The people who are claiming no one else concurs with the air marshalls are the ones who are reading CNN. Coincidence?


354 posted on 12/08/2005 3:16:41 PM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: johnny7
44 year old grifter on disability who thinks he might make a few bucks out'a this.

Yeah, a construction worker. But FReepers would believe a similiariy aged journalist who thought she might make a few bucks out of casting doubt on the Air Marshals.

355 posted on 12/08/2005 3:17:05 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: brytlea
If my husband got up and tried to run off of an airplane, but had not said anything threatening, I doubt I would be telling people he was sick. I would just follow after him and try to stop him. Why would I feel I needed to explain hiim to anyone?

From the story she had already had some kind of visible altercation with Alpizar before he got up; and was visibly agitated. If your husband was sick you might get up and make a public explanation just to avoid what happened here--and how would you feel if after your husband had left the plane, after you had attempted to explain, and apparently without making any "bomb" threats; he was shot down anyway?

356 posted on 12/08/2005 3:18:42 PM PST by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress;but I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: TexasCajun
Seems a lot more planes could be covered if one armed marshall was on board instead of two?

But then they wouldn't be able to back up each others version of events.

357 posted on 12/08/2005 3:18:49 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: Rennes Templar

Gee, what are the odds???

That Time was able to find someone out of an entire planeload of passengers who DIDN'T hear the "b-word."
Just how stupid does Time think its readers are.

sr


358 posted on 12/08/2005 3:19:27 PM PST by seanrobins (seanrobins.com)
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To: daybreakcoming
It was reported last night that many other passengers heard him yelling he had a bomb. Your hero must have missed it while talking to his brother.

The story on the FoxNews website says nothing about the passengers hearing him say that the had a bomb. CNN reports that no passengers have reported that they heard the man say that he had a bomb.

What may be confusing is that the passengers are likely presenting second hand information. There is a big difference between "I heard he had a bomb" and "I personally heard him say that he had a bomb".

359 posted on 12/08/2005 3:20:17 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: All

FLASH: DEC. 7, 1941 Pearl Harbor

One Eyewitness to the sinking of USS Arizona, thinks Navy may be overeating. He tells Time magazine that he never saw any Japanese planes.




Time Headline Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"

A. he was not an "eye" witness to the actual shooting?
B. or even an "ear" witness to what was said in the jetway


Obviously the headline was an attempt by Time to spin this as an unjustified overeaction by air marshalls who are lying to cover up their error.
The implication of the headline is that this man was in a position to hear the word bomb, if the person shot had spoken the word. Thus his account contradicts the Air Marshalls.

Question When is a report and a headline about an incident based on a single witness's, when there are over a hundred "witnesses"?
Answer: When that one witness is spinning the story the way the MSM wants to spin it.


360 posted on 12/08/2005 3:20:43 PM PST by Jonah Johansen ("Comming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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