Posted on 11/29/2005 5:25:04 AM PST by conservativecorner
Yesterday, George W. Bush strode to a podium in Tucson, Arizona (I love Tucson!) and against a backdrop of law enforcement officers, announced his latest plan to crack down on illegal aliens. There was nothing in his speech we haven't heard before, and his new immigration policy is just as contradictory as the old one. Among the initiatives announced:
We should build more jail cells to hold illegal aliens. Good idea. The speeding up of deportations, a crackdown on fraudulent identity papers, and a hardening of the border with more surveillance. So far, so good. Then the nonsense started to flow. The president urged Congress to pass his guest-worker amnesty program and repeated the nonsense that the illegal aliens are here "to fill jobs that Americans will not do."
Same old, same old. It is impossible to stand there and say you're going to crack down on illegal immigration while at the same time say that you are going to reward people who broke our immigration laws. The president says it's not amnesty. Ok, now we've finally caught the president in a lie. OF COURSE it's amnesty! When you tell someone who has broken the law that you are not only going to ignore their illegal conduct, but you are actually going to reward them for it, then you have more than plain old garden variety amnesty, you have amnesty with perks!
As for the oft-repeated line that the illegal aliens fill jobs Americans won't, that's also a load. Companies may not be able to fill those jobs with Americans at the same low wages they pay Mexicans, but there are plenty of people in this country that would do the work at the right price. OK .. so the price of headless chickens, landscaping and construction might go up, but at least the people receiving those paychecks would be law-abiding residents of this country, most of whom would be citizens. There is something wrong with the idea of celebrating lower home prices when those lower prices are brought with disrespect for the laws of our country. It gets worse than that. We are threatening our very security by singing the praises of illegal aliens in our workforce. Just two weeks ago we were interviewing a Texas congressman who was telling us that U.S. intelligence agencies have knowledge that Al Qaeda terrorists have moved to Mexico, adopted Hispanic identities, learned the Spanish language, and then moved right into the United States across our porous borders.
George Bush failed to address the problem appropriately yesterday, but this isn't strictly a George Bush issue. There is absolutely no willingness on the part of either political party to crack down on illegal immigration. There are simply too many votes to be had in the Hispanic community. So as a result, our security as a nation is threatened and our cities and states are overrun with illegal aliens.
I'm sure representatives of Al-Qaeda are preparing to apply for their guest-worker permits as we speak.
Minnesota ? No wonder you dont care about illegals your obviously insulated by all your white bread up there. What is the crime rate in Minn? Im sure the big story of the year is how somebody hit a Moose huh? Here in Tucson we have murders everyday 90% are committed by illegals and/or related to illegals.
Before you start pounding on Boortz perhaps you ought to quit acting like a bushbot brown nose ass kissing RINO and realize Bush is a do-nothing all talk phony.
Tell ya what .. if you want the jobs .. then go apply for them
Again...how noble.
Yep. I'm done!
I guess you have never heard of "double-speak". If you watch real close you will see some of it in politics. (sarc)
LMAO!
"the real driver are the corporate political contributions from those who benefit from cheap illegal labor."
Pure liberal, union B.S.
The companies hiring illegal immigrants are small. Large companies are too big of targets for enforcement. They are run by greedy people who hire relatively small numbers of illegal workers to exploit.
They aren't the kinds of people who make significant campaign contributions.
If they are making campaign contributions, the amounts of money are dwarfed by the fast sums of union money being dumped into political campaigns.
Unions dump vast sums of money into politics and then say that it's the big bad corporations that are scewing politics with money, when it corporations are in most cases not donating anywhere near the kinds of money the unions are.
The numbers just don't support your accusations.
However, if you look at our low unemployment figures, and look at estimations on how many illegal immigrants are currently working in the US, it's pretty obvious that there are more jobs than legal workers in the US.
It doesn't take much of an economist to figure out that if you were able to effectively enforce immigration law, there's be a considerable number of businesses simply unable to find workers.
A slightly tight labor marker is nice for workers. I like having job security as well as mobility, however if the market gets too tight, the economy cannot grow. At the same time the thght labor market drives up wages. That sounds nice until you realize that it's going to also drive up inflation, and inflation in a shrinking economy quickly leader to recession and then depression.
We need strong immigration enforcement, but we also need sufficient legal immigration.
Oh here is a silly idea
How about we look at the idea and work on the areas that need improvement
A lot of this workers program depends on the wording and what kind of teeth it has before I jump on board and agree to it
But at least I'm will to look at it and discuss it
also .... the federal government and the President can not fix this alone
It's too big of a problem
Bush just doesn't get it. He really doesn't get it. The guy is thicker than a post.
MOST Republicans, Democrats, and INDEPENDENTS have simply HAD it with illegal aliens. We want it stopped. Period.
If he thinks the public believes his "guest worker" program is not an "amnesty program", he's dumber than I have come to realize he is.
Unless Bush stops behaving like a liberal Democrat on this subject, he is going to re-create for the 2008 Republican Candidate for President and the Republican candidates for Congress in 2006 the same kind of glaring, obvious trap the leftist Dems sprang on his stupid father when they tricked him into raising taxes, then crucified him later for doing it. And Ted Kennedy and the other libs will be out there leading the pack.
My oh my, how did we ever afford all the above before the flood of illegals?
If I recall correctly, there were more affordable homes built without the illegal labor pool than now. How many of the new construction palaces of today can be afforded by a single blue collar wage earner?
Were the occupancy rates at hotels/motels any lower or rooms less clean than now?
Did the yards not get mowed?
Hell, we supplied not only our own armed forces but those of our allies in the greatest military conflict and afterword's went on to flood the world with consumer products on a scale never witnessed and all without the flood of illegals.
Families, many with only one wage earner, purchased fresh fruits and vegetables.
We survived quite well without the illegals then and we can do so again. Round them up and ship them back!!!
I read the Presidnet's speech on the Interdent.
You make good points... however, as anyone with a small buisness knows, labor is a huge expense. Small biz will suffer the shock the hardest.
You and I agree on this.
No matter what. If you make illegal aliens legal by calling them "guest workers" there will always be those coming up behind them to under-cut them. It is the nature of the beast. Enforcement....oh yeah sure like we are enforcing now. We in the west and southwest are not buying it. Tell it to the wind and the rain not to us.
Finally! Conservatives are well aware of the Republican Party's policy on illegal immigration.
This forum isn't buying Bush's nonsense and frankly, conservatives are tired of party shills racing to this forum to dispense the Kool-Aid.
RIP
I'm from Philly and 98% of the crime here is committed by legal residents
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