Posted on 11/28/2005 4:49:25 AM PST by texianyankee
I heard on the radio this morning, that a pilot of a passenger jet departing LAX claimed to have narrowly avoided being hit by a missile. It was reported that the jet was about 6,000 feet in altitude & over the ocean when the event occurred. The news report further stated that authorities believe it was possibly a flare or a "bottle rocket."
I googled but found nothing. Anyone else have some info on this? I dont recall whether it was CBS or NBC radio news.
That being said, a "bottle rocket" or "flare" sounds like something the feds would say the witnesses really saw. Of course everyone knows these items cannot reach that altitude, and they would be lucky to climb to 500 feet.
I'm all for arming pilots, but how would an armed pilot have helped in this situation?
I've long thought that what two fellows with a beat up old car and a .30-06 rifle did to the capital was horrifying. The odds of any individual getting shot at any given time was infinitesimal, on sniper in an entire metropolitan area, but everyone was steppin and fetchin, serpentine walking and all the rest. Just astonishing how terrorists can use weak bellied liberals and the media to make frenchmen out of all of us.
I suspect that there were several successful shoe bumbings before Richard Reid forgot to bring his bic to flic. If Flight 800 wasn't a missile, it still could well have been a shoe bomb... that may have been what caused the spark in the center fuel tank.
Then there is the "Body Cavity Bomb" as used in Russia by the Chechyan women. Wait till they start inspecting for that -- no profiling now! Blondes first.
>>>Wait till they start inspecting for that -- no profiling now! Blondes first.
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Snip:
Graeme Sephton is a man on a mission. After seven years of effort, the electrical engineer affiliated with the University of Massachusetts has forced the FBI to defend its record gathering in a federal appeals court in Boston.
Like retired United Airline pilot Ray Lahr on the west coast, Sephton is focusing on one key area of inquiry in the case of TWA Flight 800. This is the airliner that crashed on the night of July 17, 1996, off the coast of Long Island.
Lahr's ongoing case in the Los Angeles District Court pivots on the calculations used by the National Transportation Safety Board and the CIA to postulate a 3,400 foot post-crash climb by the nose-less 747. This contrivance was critical in that it allowed the authorities to explain away the testimony of the 270 eyewitnesses who saw an ascending object strike the plane.
Sephton v. FBI pivots on one essential category of evidence as well. Specifically, Sephton wants the FBI to share the forensic information derived from the foreign objects embedded in the bodies of the 230 people killed in the crash. What the FBI has been telling Sephton for the last five years is that its agents can find virtually none of the forensic details about these objects, although released documents make clear that the FBI logged in hundreds of unidentifiable objects as evidence relating to the initial explosion.
Nope....Please ping me if you DO hear any more!!
YIKES!
Hi Laz,
Good to see you posting! It will be hard to take the government on face value when it orders people to do certain things when something serious does end up happening.
2000' max for a flare. Even a two stage Estes rocket with three stages using D size engines will only go about 4,000'.
Imagine if that OU guy had gotten INTO the stadium. No more college football for a while.
We are probably much, much luckier than we realize.
help me if I'm wrong...
Report from ABC is out of NY to locals
on in La Grange, TX, and other Denver, Co.
ABC controlling the feed at the time of
broadcast.
Does anyone know the flight number of the
flight? I understand the flight is from LA to
Chicago?
Had there been access to the pilot or does
anyone know who the pilot is (name)?
I'm beginning to think ABC may have simply
wanted to pull a fast one or something similar.
Whoops, make that a three stage Estes with 3 D Engines will only go 4,000 feet. You can add that the conditions have to be perfect. Virtually windless.
numerous errors in grammar, etc.
I beg forgiveness....
although I bet none will be given...LOL
LOL. That's the story that inspired my comment :)
Thnaks for reminding me of that case!! It is an excellamnt example of how "small" terrorist acts can have a great effect.
"The biggest model rocket engine can *maybe* go 1000 feet. Prolly a lot less carrying another stage."
Hahaha. Common model rockets (up to D class engines) can go around 3000 ft. straight up. Multistage rockets, of course, go higher than single stage.
"Enthusiast" class rockets can use up to P engines (each letter is a doubling of total impulse, P is quite large). Amateurs have launched rockets in excess of 60,000 ft. altitude.
What makes these rockets essentially harmless is lack of a seeker and guidance system.
If the rocket in question was still producing a plume at 6,000 ft (as the article seems to imply) it would have had to have been quite large.
I think for the most part, you got it right, except what report I heard originated from WTAW out of Bryan, TX.
I called the station about 9AM - some 3 hours after the report - & the guy said he had heard the same newsreport but didnt see any follow-up nor anything additional on the station's AP wire reports.
I do know it was a flight from LAX to the east - but I didnt pick up on the airlines - though I believe it was mentioned.
One would think that such a report would be also somewhere on the internet.
Arent there some internet sites that deal with airline news? I dunno.
I have repeatedly checked the internet - google, ABC, LA News, etc - but no luck.
Ping
You make some very good points. I hadn't considered what would happen if they actually managed to pull off any of these attempts.
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