Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 27 November 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 27 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

What was his name, I forget except for calling him McLawyer!

McBride, wasn't it? Maybe Russert was mad because he defeated Janet Reno in the primary.

[Bahbah]

I do want him to be The Man at this point in the game but.......

That is pretty much where I am right now. I really like the man though.

[Txsleuth]

Thanks for letting us know that they were excited...at least ONE country in the world appreciates the POTUS...I can't even say that about his own country, much, anymore...

[Reagan Man]

Well said, D1! Politics isn't for the thin skinned or the faint of heart. The current crop of GOP congressmen leave a lot to be desired. Past president's like Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan knew they could count on certain GOP Senators and House members to stand up and speak out in defense of their administrations policies. What we have today are Democrats employing a well coordinated effort to undermine the President and the war in Iraq.

I know many Republicans are nervous about the 2008 midterm elections, but they won't convince anyone to vote for them if they run from the issue of Iraq. John Warner ran today. His performance was pathetic. Keeping the GOP unified is the responsibility of all Republicans, but specifically its the party's leadership that needs to keep the team organized. That means Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice on the executive side and the GOP Congressional leadership on the legislative side. The people we voted into office aren't getting the job done when it comes to defending and promoting the policies that took us to war and keep us engaged till this day.

[Jeff Chandler]

McCain/Hillary in'08

[Miss Marple]

Lugar is my senator, and this is not the first time he has given a lukewarm to disastrous performance on the Sunday Talk shows. I think he is miffed that he didn't make it through the primaries and that he is no longer the premier Republican on foreign policy (having been superceded by the President, Cheney, and Rice).

Bitterness explains part of it. The other part is that he is getting a little foggy in his old age, and should have retired before this term. We have good Republicans in Indiana (Steve Buyer and Mike Pence) but until Lugar retires and/or Bayh loses we are not going to get them to run.

[Txsleuth]

Oh, dear, are you having to set people straight on polls again this week???

Maybe we should "outlaw" polls and poll discussions on FR...after all...they mean nothing, IMHO. LOL

[daybreakcoming]

The basis that Pres Bush has set for troop withdrawal has been the same all along. But I have no doubt that the Demos will claim responsibility when it does begin with each and every man/woman deployed back to the states. It would not hurt Allen to be one to point this out along with someone (preferably Pres Bush) from the administration.

[snugs]

One of the problems though IMHO today is that when the right do say something to counter the left attacks the MSM make out how out of order they are.

Think about the 2 speeches from the President and VP recently the left scream righteous indignation and say how low the Republicans have gone. Look how they complained about the vote in Congress over the withdraw of troops. When the right do it the MSM criticize and say how disgusting it is but when the left do it they are defending themselves against the dreadful republican tactics and upholding the good name of America.

[PerConPat]

They don't wan't to discuss the whole war on terror because they are having too much fun playing "heads we win, tails you lose" second guessing the strategy for this one battle....

Precisely. Never a mention of Gaddafi etc. by the Dims, they constantly blow smoke into the eyes of America -to advance the socialist cause. But, fortunately, our country's men and women can obtain information these days from varied sources. Of course, it doesn't help matters when we trot out the likes of John Warner, e.g. on this morning's MTP, to preach the usual "bipartisan" sermon.

Americans need to hear the truth, at every opportunity, as to the disaster that awaits us should we fail to follow through on the great work now in progress in the Middle East.

[snugs]

They do not have the excuse but are the majority that interested or bothered to find out the truth and are just content to let whatever TV channel they watch tell them "their truth." That is certainly my experience in Britain and sadly not just amongst the young.

[chgomac]

"At the very least, every candidate for office next time, whether for Senator or POTUS, should be required to answer whether they read the whole intelligence report...

That would tell me which ones thought the intelligence was an important piece in their vote.....people find a way to do the things they feel are important......so on this point, the ones who didn't feel the pre-war intelligence was important enough to read should be men & women enough to say "no comment" when it is brought up!

[Txsleuth]

Senator Jeff Sessions is a terrific advocate...and wouldn't give in to dem lies...but you never see him on the Sunday talk shows...for that very reason...sigh.

[Chuck54]

Maybe we should "outlaw" polls and poll discussions on FR...after all...they mean nothing, IMHO. LOL

Excellent point Oh Wise One!

I try and watch some of Blitz the Nitz on Late Edition Sundays and always, in his last remarks, directs you to some lame-brain on-line poll and asks you to vote. The poll is so liberal biased as to be a waste of time, and is usually 85-15 for the liberal position.

His remarks at the very end are usually, "This poll is unscientific". DUH!

[daybreakcoming]

What is it going to take for the Stone Cold "Conservatives" to wake up to the fact that the Dinosaur Media is NOT your friends and buying into it's spin lies is the equivalent of listening to Radio Berlin in 1943 and expecting to hear "news".

Excellent! Bears repeating.
Thank you.

[snugs]

The TV stations of course have got to be prepared to put them on. They probably think they have done their fair and balanced bit for a few weeks (TV stations) by having Rumsfeld on last weekend.

[Txsleuth]

Allen also voted YES to than terrible Warner Amendment...THAT was truly a disappointment for me, because that is one subject he needs to be totally up to date with.

He wrote an article explaining his reasons for voting for it...but, it was so unremarkable, I can't remember any of it..but I wasn't persuaded at all.

[MNJohnnie]

If the 'White House' wants any of these people to appear on a Sunday talkshow, its a done deal.

Fairly obvious you know NOTHING about modern politics. The real world does NOT work the way your Hollywood dictated illusion tell you it does.

Sorry but in the real world Bush cannot just snap his fingers and demand the Sunday shows allow him to pick their guests. To suggest that demonstrates appalling ignorance of political realities. If Bush is so powerful that he can dictate the media converge, why was the Last Iraq vote a 1 day story? Why are NONE of his daily dozen weekly speeches covered live? Why has the Dinosaur Media chose to quit covering the daily Pentagon Briefings on Iraq? Why are none the Iraq medal award ceremonies covered? Why are any of the dozens of good Iraq news stories Sand Rat posts here daily every picked up by the Dinosaur Media?

The truth is we live in a world that does NOT operate on the dictatorial whimsy the 100% delude themselves the President has. When the Dinosaur Media goes from pretending to be objective to out right cheerleaders for the other side, as they have done with Bush, there is very little the President can do to MAKE cover things. You delusions only work if the Media is WILLING TO WORK WITH the President. They USE to when they pretended to be "objective". They had to throw the right a bone now and then. Now, they no longer even pretend to be objective and there is NO way for the WH to compel them.

I know this doesn't conform to"the Mike Savage Conservatives" illusions that the world can be ordered to their emotional whimsy simply by Presidential Fiat.

Sorry but how you FEEL about things is NOT reality. Please stop stating your feelings as facts. They are not facts, they are just your feelings.

[Bulldaddy]

Last week (which I didn't get to see) Biden and Wallace got in a "yes he did, no he didn't" disagreement as to whether Cheney ever used the word "imminent" in describing Saddam as a threat. That then apparently drew a lot of viewer mail. FNS also asked Biden to provide any evidence of Cheney using the word "imminent" and Biden's office provided some really lame video of a Cheney speech in Aug 2002 where he nowhere used the word imminent (I say lame in reference to the attempt Biden made, not Cheney's actual comments which were truly accurate and not overblown rhetoric). Wallace introduced the Biden-supplied video with a very nice "told-you-so" smirk.

[Bahbah]

Allen also voted YES to than terrible Warner Amendment

That was a big disappointment indeed. Charles Krauthamer just said that some senators are privately expressing regret for their vote. I hope he is one of them.