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Allowing concealed guns a bad idea
Coulee News ^ | November 23, 2005 | ADAM A. MEYERS

Posted on 11/23/2005 1:30:56 PM PST by jdege

Allowing concealed guns a bad idea

By ADAM A. MEYERS Racine, Wis.

I am a police officer with the Racine Police Department and a part-time police officer for another community in Racine County. This is strictly my opinion and I am not speaking on behalf of the communities or law enforcement agencies that employ me.

The Wisconsin law against carrying a concealed firearm has worked effectively for over 130 years. Deciding to pass a concealed carry law in Wisconsin that will allow almost every adult to carry a concealed firearm is a potentially dangerous decision.

Carrying a concealed firearm and deciding to shoot another human being is different from what is perceived on television, in the movies or while playing a video game. Allowing Wisconsin residents to carry concealed firearms may not reduce crime. If anything, crime may increase and there will be, without a doubt, more firearms in our homes and on our streets.

I strongly support the ability for people to defend themselves, but I don’t believe that carrying a concealed firearm is the only way to accomplish this. There are a lot of responsibilities that come with carrying a concealed firearm and being able to effectively use it against someone in their self-defense or in the defense of another human being.

I agree that retired law enforcement professionals should be permitted to carry a concealed firearm as long as they follow state and federal laws and those policies presented to them by their former law enforcement agencies.

I believe that there is no credible evidence that carrying a concealed firearm reduces crime and that passing a concealed carry law in Wisconsin will do more harm than good.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; dope; rtc; shallissue; wisconsin
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1 posted on 11/23/2005 1:30:57 PM PST by jdege
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Treating every American as a criminal is a bad idea.


2 posted on 11/23/2005 1:33:36 PM PST by Third Order
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Allowing Wisconsin residents to carry concealed firearms may not reduce crime.

Well it has everywhere else, so perhaps this guy's opinion is a little biased right off the bat.

3 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:03 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: jdege

Bullcrap.


4 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:12 PM PST by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: jdege

Talking points right off the fax machine.


5 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:13 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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I strongly support the ability for people to defend themselves, but

Everyone has a big "but".

What he means is that he supports self defense, as long as you don't use any scary weapons.

6 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:13 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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Yeah really. An elite cop who think he knows what's best for Joe Six Pack. I'm sick and tired of this condescending attitude to the Little People. He really needs to stuff it - and I'm not talking about turkey here!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

7 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"...is a potentially dangerous decision."
"...may not reduce crime"
"...crime may increase"
"...there will be, without a doubt, more firearms in our homes and on our streets."


He doesn't seem to know much but he sure seems to have a strong stand. I wonder what makes him think that his limited training on carry a gun makes him an expert and the rest of us just a bunch of dolts.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:36 PM PST by CodeToad
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He didn't do his research. I wonder how he votes. Did he vote for Kerry?


9 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:51 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Third Order

Sez who....


10 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:53 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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I agree that retired law enforcement professionals should be permitted to carry a concealed firearm...

"Law enforcement profesionals" are supercitizens, after all, not like the rest of the peasants.

11 posted on 11/23/2005 1:34:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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Well I do prefer an exposed sidearm...


12 posted on 11/23/2005 1:35:02 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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"more firearms in our homes"


That comment, alone, singles him out as an elitist liberal who thinks no one should even own guns.


13 posted on 11/23/2005 1:35:44 PM PST by CodeToad
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Self-defense for "retired law enforcement professionals" but not for the general public, eh? You better take a look at the experience of other states. Shall-issue concealled carry works in reducing crime.


14 posted on 11/23/2005 1:35:57 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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Anybody who isn't me should not have a gun.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:11 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Another guy with a strong opinion but no facts.


16 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:12 PM PST by anton
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There are a lot of responsibilities that come with carrying a concealed firearm and being able to effectively use it against someone in their self-defense or in the defense of another human being.

Yep. On this one point I will agree.

It is a shame the rest of the article is such horse hockey.

17 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:28 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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So can I sue you for not being there when I am assaulted or attacked? If you do not allow me to protect myself, you should be responsible.


18 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:56 PM PST by right right
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Jackbooted thugs hate the idea of an armed citizenry. The whole tone of the article is one of an unquestioning authoritarian. The notion of "Allowing concealed carry" suggests that some citizens are in a position to allow G-d given freedoms to others.


19 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:57 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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The reason to carry a concealed weapon isn't that it will reduce crime because it probably doesn't. I carry a concealed weapon to help protect myself and my family. I don't have the luxury and wealth to have a full time body guard and, it the community I live in doesn't have the funds to give every citizen police protection 24/7.
20 posted on 11/23/2005 1:37:01 PM PST by Russ
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