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America's Safest and Most Dangerous Cities
Morgan Quitno Awards ^ | 2005

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:18:39 PM PST by Lorianne

Cities over 500,000:

Safest 10

San Jose, CA El Paso, TX Honolulu, HI New York, NY Austin, TX San Diego, CA Louisville, KY San Antonio, TX Fort Worth, TX Jacksonville, FL

Most Dangerous 10:

Detroit, MI Baltimore, MD Washington, DC Memphis, TN Dallas, TX Philadelphia, PA Columbus, OH Nashville, TN Houston, TX Charlotte, NC


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Political Humor/Cartoons
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To: PhiKapMom

I don't know if you have been downtown lately. But when I have visitors from out of state we are downtown until well after midnight. We usually finish with breakfast at MiTiera's.

I usually use a three wheel mobility vehicle when a lot of walking is involved. I do not feel unsafe ever, when we are downtown, or at the Riverwalk, or El Mercado, for that matter. That having been said there are areas of town that I would not like to be on foot at night.

Lest you say I am full of it, I do have a Part-Time job. Gets me out of an empty house and among people. It is for a Van co. that hauls railroad crews out to their trains, which are sometimes stopped in those areas. I have no problems there either.

In essence, I am am saying that San Antonio deserves a listing as safe, and comparatively clean also.


121 posted on 11/21/2005 9:56:35 PM PST by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best man available, have finally borne fruit with Alito's nomination.)
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To: nopardons

Hampstead if you mean Hamptons, isn't a suburb. :) But maybe you refer to somewhere else. My impression is that Nassau is in decline. Westchester will always be Westchester. I was in Chicago about 5 years ago. I was amazed that the ghetto between downtown and the University of Chicago had been largely cleared away, and become mostly black middle class. The other big change were the Hispanics. All of those white ethnic neighborhoods on the Southwest side going to Midway airport had become Hispanic. When I was in college, Chicago had one or two Mexican restaurants. That was IT in the entire city. That was a cultural shock for an Angelo, born and bred.


122 posted on 11/21/2005 10:00:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: Melas

It is in the Safe list.


123 posted on 11/21/2005 10:05:29 PM PST by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best man available, have finally borne fruit with Alito's nomination.)
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To: Torie
My impression is that Nassau is in decline.

Nassau/Suffolk is on the safest 25 list (#16) of 330 metro areas.

124 posted on 11/21/2005 10:09:50 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin

So many lists, so little time. Maybe the New York metro area just is doing away with its underclass. Maybe they all moved to Camden.


125 posted on 11/21/2005 10:11:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: saquin

Where is that list by the way?


126 posted on 11/21/2005 10:12:05 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

The good times are rolling in NYC. Jobs are plentiful, 30 year olds will be taking home seven figure bonuses on Wall Street at the end of the year, and anyone who wants a job can pretty much find one.


127 posted on 11/21/2005 10:13:50 PM PST by durasell
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To: Torie
Hampstead, which surrounds Hampstead Heath, is considered to be part of London, but is very tranquil and beautiful, has delightful shops, and a mix of apartments, small houses, and absolutely incredible homes.

Well, then learning that the area just west of Soldier Field is now all very expensive high rises, with more being built, should shock you even more.

The Hamptons are on Long Island........way, way, waaaaaaaaay out at the end of Long Island and I most assuredly know the difference between an exurb of N.Y.C, and a place at the outer edge of London proper. LOL

Nassau is a COUNTY on Long Island ( the North Shore) and is another topic altogether; Westchester is upstate. :-)

128 posted on 11/21/2005 10:15:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lorianne
Amongst the Safest 10 - Honolulu, HI?

Maybe only since Dog the Bounty Hunter and his troops have been cleaning up the place.

129 posted on 11/21/2005 10:20:55 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: nopardons

Hampstead is pretty inner city no, albeit not has inner city as Chelsea and that other place, whose name escapes me. I thought you were referring to my post about Nassau, not London. LOL. Nassau will always have Manhasset.


130 posted on 11/21/2005 10:30:00 PM PST by Torie
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To: Hildy

My thoughts exactly. Seems an anti-septic town.


131 posted on 11/21/2005 10:31:21 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: durasell
My older brother married a Mallory. Pity that the fortune had been largely but not totally dissipated. LOL.
132 posted on 11/21/2005 10:35:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

Actually murder and other violent crimes are significantly down in Chicago the past couple of years.

New Efforts to Stop Crime in Chicago Seem to Be Working - August 17, 2005

Quick summary of that article:

A) strategically placed cameras in high-crime areas help cops do their jobs to patrol and make arrests

ELIZABETH BRACKET: One of the other high-tech devices that has helped Chicago police reduce the crime rate is the placement of cameras on the top of light poles in neighborhoods where there is a large amount of known narcotic, gang and firearm related violence.

Sgt. Greg Hoffman - who is one of those in charge of the camera control room - says the cameras can even detect the sound of gunfire.

SGT. GREG HOFFMAN, Chicago Police: What happens is a visual and audible alert is sent to the crime detections specialists (siren) - What happens is the camera will turn in the direction of the gunshot report and zoom in on that location.

B) Intervention by non-profit community agencies

New policing strategies, though effective, are not the only methods being credited for lowering the murder rate in Chicago. Non-profit community organizations have also intervened to stop the violence. One of the most effective is a group called CeaseFire.

CeaseFire Illinois is a non-profit group with 70 paid workers who go into high-risk areas to try to reduce violence. Two-thirds of its funding comes from the state of Illinois.

C) Parolees are required to take a class = tough talk and interagency coordination

ELIZABETH BRACKET: The neighborhoods CeaseFire works in have seen a rising number of gang members return to the street after serving time in prison. It's estimated that 21,000 inmates will get out of Illinois prisons this year. That's why Chicago police, in cooperation with law enforcement from Cook County, the state of Illinois and the federal government, are also zeroing in on those neighborhoods with a new program dubbed Project Safe Neighborhoods. The project is very visible on billboards, radio and TV in the designated areas.

TV AD: Go to jail for a gun crime, and your family serves the sentence with you.

ELIZABETH BRACKET: Parolees in the targeted areas are required to attend meetings, where they face law enforcement representatives. A University of Chicago study found that only seven, or 1 percent, of the 700 who attended have committed another crime. One of the coordinators of Project Safe neighborhoods is David Hoffman, an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Chicago office.

133 posted on 11/21/2005 10:42:42 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Torie
Oh YUCK on Manhasset! LOL

I don't think your knowledge of At one time, Hampstead was the outer suburbs of London and the Heath was where "footpads" and other villains crept about at night. Both Wilkey Collins ( "THE LADY IN WHITE" ) and Dickens used the Heath and Hampstead in their books. So did Sir Arthur Connan Doyle, of I'm not mistaken.

134 posted on 11/21/2005 10:44:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Richard Kimball
I suspect that with huge cities, the massive suburbs, with lower crime, tend to cancel out the more crime-ridden inner cities.

Chicago is Chicago. Their statistics are theirs - they do not count the statistics of the suburbs in their crime figures.

135 posted on 11/21/2005 10:44:47 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Squantos
I'll take credit for my AO -- San Jose....
The bastards here clearly recognize I'm pissed, armed, impatient, irrational, territorial, violent and going through menopause....

They don't mess around within range..

I think the real reason for the low crime rate -- is housing costs are too high, and most job requirements here in Silicon Valley require an EDUCATION --- both rule out the thugs.

Stay safe partner.

Semper Fi

136 posted on 11/21/2005 11:22:21 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: onja
Is Nashville Tenn. a large minority city?

I'm not sure what the racial makeup of the city is. I do know that when I was driving a tractor trailer, a certain truck stop in Nashville was crawling with prostitutes, bums, dopers, etc. The a-holes would accost you from the time you arrived until the time you left.

The NPD was pretty busy trying to round up the a-holes. As far as truck stops go, Nashville was one of the worst.

137 posted on 11/22/2005 5:00:00 AM PST by csvset
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To: Torie
Where is that list by the way?

On the same page as the original thread link. Scroll down to the bottom.

138 posted on 11/22/2005 6:11:01 AM PST by saquin
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To: Blue Jays
me: "...I do notice some common factors among the safest, and common factors among the unsafest..."

Blue Jays: Some liberal from DU is likely going to visit this forum and call you a racist for those terrible thoughts!

The funny thing is, I didn't say anything. The DU'r will have to project his own bias's into my statement to call me a racist. Those factors could be anything. Average income levels, or income differentials , education... the list goes on. But one has to already have made a judgment about race to project upon me the thought that I am racist.

Of curse, I writ it dat way un purple Blue Jays. Hee Hee Hee

139 posted on 11/22/2005 6:18:39 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Torie
As a first crude cut at it, it appears that Texan Hipanics are pretty law abiding.

That has been noted before. It's been suggested that Texas hispanics have a longer cultural presence in the state and feel part of the system. Or, that the more recent hispanic influx comes from a part of Mexico that is more law-abiding.

Whatever the reason, the hispanic presence in Texas doesn't equate to an increased level of violence and crime as seen in other states.

Of course, crimes are committed by people of all races in Texas so it's not hard to find exceptions to the rule, but your observation seems to be accurate.

140 posted on 11/22/2005 9:03:29 AM PST by Dog Gone
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