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Border Wars (More illegal immigrants. More violence. More death. The public has had it.)
USnews ^ | 11/28/05 | Angie C. Marek

Posted on 11/20/2005 4:23:25 PM PST by Flavius

YUMA, ARIZ. --When Border Patrol agents here meet for "the muster," their gathering before the night shift, they've got a lot to talk about. On a recent evening, shift commander Tony Martinez ticked off a laundry list of events from the night before. Scores of illegal immigrants had rushed the 8-foot metal fence that separates San Luis, Ariz., from Mexicali, Mexico--a tactic known as the "banzai run." A routine checkpoint stop turned up 251 bundles of marijuana in a rental car. And a report out of Miami indicated that some illegals were getting plastic surgery on their fingertips so their prints wouldn't be recognized by the FBI's database. "Remember Casa Grande," Martinez warned, referring to an incident when an agent found three axes and three loaded guns in an illegal immigrant's duffel bag. "And please, be careful."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; presidentbush
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To: Veggie Todd

"I bet they lock their homes when they're gone "

They live in only the safest,expensive neighborhoods.


21 posted on 11/20/2005 6:04:04 PM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: mugs99
How many thousands of tons of marijuana is consumed in America every year?

This SHOULD read: "How many thousands of tons of marijuana is consumed by DUmmies in America every year....

22 posted on 11/20/2005 6:26:03 PM PST by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: Flavius

Guess some will only be happy when the rest of the world resides in what used to be the good old USA....how foolish of us.


23 posted on 11/20/2005 6:56:06 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Flavius

I'm just wondering how long this uproar will last before most people lose interest. It's sad to say but Americans have a fairly short attention span. Someone has to stay disciplined and keep the information flowing besides the MSM who only tell part of the story if any at all.


24 posted on 11/20/2005 6:57:23 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: tom h

Well, now that you've enlightened everyone, I guess it won't work.


25 posted on 11/20/2005 6:59:38 PM PST by truthpls
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To: mickie

Help Wanted ad for use in the former East Germany:

experienced fence installer/maintainer willing to relocate to South West United States for long term employment with assistance in becoming United States citizen.

send resume/work history

United States Embassy
c/o Justice Attache
*****strasse
Berlin Germany

The above would be in German of course. It would also make the Rat party scream bloody murder which is not a bad thing.


26 posted on 11/20/2005 7:18:38 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Flavius

bump


27 posted on 11/20/2005 7:25:08 PM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: GOPJ

Border bump!!


28 posted on 11/20/2005 7:32:22 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Season's Greetings ~)
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To: dirtbiker
This SHOULD read: "How many thousands of tons of marijuana is consumed by DUmmies in America every year....

Bossa nova no cafe?
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29 posted on 11/20/2005 9:26:05 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: rfreedom4u; Flavius

Oh, come on now. We all know that the persecution of tobacco smokers is far more important in this country than securing the borders.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 3:55:33 AM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


31 posted on 11/21/2005 8:13:57 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: cripplecreek

Or deal in drug trafficking


32 posted on 11/21/2005 8:41:04 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: systematic

not all, just most.


33 posted on 11/21/2005 8:41:56 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: mickie
I only have one thing to say.......Build That Damn Wall

Yepper and make it 30 foot high and electrified.

34 posted on 11/21/2005 8:43:14 AM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: dennisw
Half of our illegal alien population is visa overstayers.

You are so correct.

If you'd met the guys at Mitre, working for DHS on this problem, you'd know that they're too dumb to even begin to think about how to solve the problem.

It also says a lot that during the interview, I gave this jerk some novel ideas about "data mining" plus problem solutions (database related) and he didn't get it.

IF they had offered me a position, I would have turned it down. I won't work for a certified jerk.

So, there's no hope at the DC end of this solution, trust me. Not In Congress; Not in the contractors working for DHS with the "hopes" of solving the Visa overstay problem. Yuk.

35 posted on 11/21/2005 9:37:47 AM PST by TruthNtegrity ("I regret that by Saturday I didn't realize that LA was dysfunctional." Michael Brown, 9/27/05)
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To: Flavius

I'll bet bleeding heart liberals would change their tune if they received a $500.00 monthly bill titled "illegal alien relocation" fund.


36 posted on 11/21/2005 9:40:28 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: Flavius

DNA test are getting cheap. We should start using those.


37 posted on 11/21/2005 9:46:55 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Flavius; All

Here's another sad border story today.

How rapists prey on vulnerable border crossers
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 21, 2005

http://washtimes.com/national/20051121-122534-8097r.htm


JACUMBA, Calif. -- Among the thousands of women who will illegally cross into the United States this year from Mexico, some will be raped by the same men who demanded $1,500 to $2,000 for safe passage -- their underpants often hung on a border fence as a trophy.
"I thought the wailings we heard at night were the coyotes barking at the moon," said Tim Donnelly, who headed the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps border vigil here. "I didn't know until later that those sounds were the cries of women being raped in the Mexican desert, some less than a hundred yards away from the border.
"There was absolutely nothing anyone could do about it," said Mr. Donnelly, grimacing as he turned away to hide his emotions. "It's something you never forget."
The women, according to U.S. law-enforcement authorities, have no realistic recourse, because they are foreigners seeking to enter the United States illegally. Separated from other illegals just south of the border, the smugglers take them into the desert where they are raped or sodomized.
U.S. authorities said some Mexican border police have taken part in the violence, often targeting migrants headed to the United States from Central and South America.
The rapes are part of what the U.S. Border Patrol said is a growing pattern of violence on the U.S.-Mexico border from California to Texas, including a rising number of assaults and robberies of illegals and a dramatic increase in attacks on Border Patrol agents and other law-enforcement personnel along the 1,940-mile border.
The incidents of violence and the intensity of the attacks, the authorities said, continue despite an ongoing and expensive effort by the Department of Homeland Security in the wake of the September 11 attacks to gain "operational control" of the border.
Alien and drug smugglers -- many armed with automatic weapons, global-positioning units and night-vision scopes -- have become increasingly aggressive in protecting their illicit cargoes, the authorities said, adding that attacks on Border Patrol agents have risen fivefold in the past year.
The State Department issued a warning earlier this year to Americans traveling into the northern border regions of Mexico, saying they should be "aware of the risk posed by the deteriorating security situation," including killings, kidnappings and sexual assaults.
The National Border Patrol Council (NBPC), which represents the agency's 10,000 nonsupervisory personnel, has blamed the increased violence, in part, on Homeland Security's "restrictive enforcement policies," saying border agents often are prohibited from actively pursuing those involved.
NBPC President T.J. Bonner, a 27-year Border Patrol veteran, said the enforcement policies have emboldened alien and drug smugglers to become more aggressive in challenging competitors, protecting themselves from detection and arrest and attacking illegal aliens.
But for Mr. Donnelly, a 38-year-old plastics salesman from Twin Peaks, Calif., who is married to a Hispanic woman and has five children, the violence is intolerable. He said the migrants who "cross every day into the United States through this rugged and dangerous terrain are the victims."

"They've been abused and abandoned by their own government. How can we not be outraged and ashamed that we allow these people to risk their lives -- and sometimes die -- in search of a better life?" he said. "What in the world is going on in our country that we will allow this to continue?"
More than 200 civilian volunteers signed up for the California vigil, standing watch along a rugged and isolated section of the U.S.-Mexico border about 70 miles east of San Diego. The monthlong event in October was part of the Minutemen's "Secure Our Borders" initiative, with volunteers in Vermont, New York, Washington state, California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
"The Minutemen are not vigilantes or racists, just Americans asking that the law be enforced, that our borders be protected against drug dealers, alien smugglers and terrorists," Mr. Donnelly said.
His involvement with the Minutemen began in April in Arizona, but Mr. Donnelly said he considered "long and hard" whether to take part in the border watches, worrying about whether President Bush's label of "vigilantes" was correct and whether those who signed up were racists and troublemakers.
He said he wanted no part of a group that would stand against migrants and human rights, adding that he carefully watched as the April vigil unfolded, listened intently to those who had organized the event, stood watches on the border and talked with "everyone I could about why they had come to Arizona."
In September, he accepted the job as head of the Minuteman operation in California. "In the sea of exploited humanity that moves across our open borders every day in pursuit of a false promise, all sorts of ugly things can and do happen," he said. "I just don't want them to happen on my watch."

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-12856.html_________________


38 posted on 11/21/2005 9:55:06 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: cripplecreek
Gotta pick a lot of lettuce to pay for that.

Many long time actual lettuce pickers/laborers have unrecognizable fingerprints the ridges are worn off...
39 posted on 11/21/2005 10:00:58 AM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: TruthNtegrity
Half of our illegal alien population is visa overstayers.

Thanks about your experience with Mitre. 
BTW- When I posted "Half of our illegal alien population is visa overstayers" I wasn't making up this number. This has been cited by many who are responsible critics of our immigration policies. Florida is infested with Colombian and other Latino wise guy visa overstayers

We have to clamp down on the Mexico border but find another strategy for dealing with overstayers

 

 

A harder look at visa overstayers

From year 2002 - Let's call her Marissa. She has wavy hair in a bob and dark eyes that are quick to smile. A Palestinian from Israel fluent in four languages, she earned a graduate degree in Moscow.

She's also an illegal immigrant. Marisa - and almost half of the estimated 9 million illegal aliens in this country - has overstayed her visa. She tried to find an employer to sponsor her so she could earn a green card, but time ran out. "No one wants to be illegal," she says. "We want to work hard. We want to live happily. That's why I'm here."

It's estimated that each year more than 100,000 legal visitors decide to stay. The majority are like Marissa. In their desire for a better life, they are taking advantage of what's become the easiest, albeit illegal way, of grasping the American dream.

"The INS has always been so overwhelmed that visa overstayers never received much attention," says Nestor Rodriguez, an immigration expert at the University of Houston. "Now, post-Sept. 11, there are new and present issues of national security. The game has changed."

Over the past 30 years, the practice of visa overstaying has grown into the method of choice for millions of migrants from all over the world. And the US Congress and Immigration and Naturalization Service have actually made it fairly easy to do so: Once a foreigner is in this country, the INS has no effective way to track where they are or whether they leave when they are supposed to.

And while Marissa doesn't like to be illegal, she's also not particularly worried about getting caught. Experts say she's not alone. "We have no real idea of how many visa overstayers there are," says Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington. "We certainly don't know who they are or where they are."

   ----SNIP----



40 posted on 11/21/2005 10:01:00 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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