The Hammer, Tom DeLay, squeezes one off right between the eyes of the democrats.
Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway
Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...
LOL, Exactly
wow even Sanders ( the socialist independent) voted nay.
Watching Murtha, I didn't come away with the impression that he was a traitor, just that he was pathetic and senile and completely clueless as to how much harm he was causing.
Old cut and Run must remember Viet Nam??? I still wonder how in the hell we could leave and subject those people to the torture and death they have suffered. Murtha needs to shut the f up. Can't believe he served...
Haven't you read the Dem Memo from Sen. Rockefeller's office:
"We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:
"1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.
"For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman [Sen. Pat Roberts] has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.
"The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. [We can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.]
"2) Assiduously prepare Democratic 'additional views' to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it.
"In that regard we may have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims. We will contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.
"The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an Independent Commission [i.e., the Corzine Amendment.]
"3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once.
"The best time to do so will probably be next year, either:
"A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report, thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public. Additional views on the interim report (1). The announcement of our independent investigation (2). And (3) additional views on the final investigation. Or:
"B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence.
"In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information.
"SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war.
"The approach outlined above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives."
Their bluff called, the cowards slink away in disgrace to conspire fresh evil.
That statement just floors me.
Has Murtha voted for his own resolution yet?
I think so. I like the FairTax. I hope this turns out to be some parlimentary thing.
They did it in FL in '00 many, many times.....
Wow, that was a close vote, LOL!!!
Check c-span now. The republican yeas are gone. Now shows 0 rep. yeas
HE DID, but he didn't mean it in the way it sounds.
It was stupid, but not treasonous.
He said that the troops have become the enemy of the terrorists.
In other words, that it is BECAUSE our troops are in Iraq that they have become targets of terror.
But he ignores things like the Cole bombing.
They are not stupid? ...could have fooled me
I think Jean got them upset... still... after this time has passed... for some reason
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5401921
Look up in the thread. Someone said his vote was procedural so we shouldn't jump to conclusions. Frankly I'll wait until Brit tells me.
The Hammer, Tom DeLay, squeezes one off right between the eyes of the democrats.
No, just the ones from Fl.
Yeah. Glad to see it. No Republicans siding with the enemies of this nation.
Wouldn't put it past them.. that's for sure.
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