Posted on 11/18/2005 11:31:04 AM PST by Reagan Man
House Republicans sought a showdown Friday with Democrats on a proposal by one of their most senior members to force an end to the U.S. deployment of troops in Iraq.
Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., offered the resolution demanding a pullout. The GOP-run House was expected to reject it _ and make a prominent statement about where Congress stands on Iraq _ as the chamber scurried toward a Thanksgiving break.
"We'll let the members debate it and then let them vote on it," said Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the acting majority leader.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's office had no immediate comment.
Murtha, a well-respected Vietnam veteran who voted for the Iraq war, called for the immediate withdrawal of troops Thursday, intensifying the already red-hot debate on Capitol Hill over President Bush's war policies.
Murtha's resolution would force the president to withdrawal the nearly 160,000 troops in Iraq "at the earliest predictable date."
Most Republicans oppose Murtha's plan, and even some Democrats have been reluctant to back his position. Republicans were seeking to force Democrats to stand with the respected 30-year congressman or go on the record against his proposal.
Some members of the House and Senate, looking ahead to off-year elections next November, are publicly worrying about a quagmire there. They have been staking out new positions on the war that has grown increasingly unpopular with the American public, resulted in more than 2,000 U.S. military deaths and cost more than $200 billion.
The House move comes just days after the GOP-controlled Senate defeated a Democratic push for Bush to lay out a timetable for withdrawal. Spotlighting mushrooming questions from both parties about the war, though, the chamber then approved a statement that 2006 should be a significant year in which conditions are created for the phased withdrawal of U.S. forces.
"Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency," Murtha, a longtime hawk on foreign and military affairs issues, said Thursday. "They are united against U.S. forces and we have become a catalyst for violence. The war in Iraq is not going as advertised. It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion."
A day after his comments, a U.S. field commander in Iraq countered the position of the usually pro-military congressman.
"Here on the ground, our job is not done," said Col. James Brown, commander of the 56th Brigade Combat Team, when asked about Murtha's comments during a weekly briefing that American field commanders routinely give to Pentagon reporters.
Speaking from a U.S. logistics base at Balad, north of Baghdad, two days before his scheduled return to Texas, Brown said: "We have to finish the job that we began here. It's important for the security of this nation."
Republicans pounced, chastising Murtha for advocating what they called a strategy of surrender and abandonment, and Democrats defended Murtha as a patriot, even as they declined to back his view.
"I won't stand for the swift-boating of Jack Murtha," Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, responded Friday. Also a Vietnam veteran, Kerry was dogged during the campaign by a group called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that challenged his war record.
"There is no sterner stuff than the backbone and courage that defines Jack Murtha's character and conscience," Kerry said.
For his part, Kerry has proposed a phased exit from Iraq, starting with the withdrawal of 20,000 troops after December elections in Iraq. A Kerry spokesman said "he has his own plan" when asked if Kerry agreed with immediate withdrawal.
As a Vietnam veteran and top Democrat on the House Appropriations defense subcommittee with close ties to many military officers, Murtha carries more credibility with his colleagues on the issue than a number of other Democrats who have opposed the war from the start.
Bush administration officials have been cautious in responding to Murtha.
"We have nothing but respect for Congressman Murtha's service to his country," White House communications director Nicolle Wallace told NBC's "Today" show Friday. "And I think he spoke from the heart yesterday. We happen to have a real serious policy disagreement with him."
Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, a 29-year Air Force veteran who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam for nearly seven years, called Murtha's position unconscionable and irresponsible. "We've got to support our troops to the hilt and see this mission through," he said.
With a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, Murtha retired from the Marine Corps reserves as a colonel in 1990 after 37 years as a Marine, only a few years longer than he's been in Congress. Elected in 1974, Murtha has become known as an authority on national security whose advice was sought out by Republican and Democratic administrations alike.
Way down yonder here in New Orleans the only news I get is Katrina recovering. However I now have High speed internet and FREEP access so things are looking up. So the GOP grew some huh? About time!!! Life is looking better and better down here.
People who use large fonts are trying to compensate for something.
Yes, but I've had to admit that I was thinking Senate even though this was clearly marked as the House. My mistake.
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He doesn't even deserve being classified as one of these most magnificent creatures.  |
Well when push comes to shove, we should know better than to think they'd actually take a stand on something. That's what this is all about. They can't stick with a war for two years, and now it's down to a few days.
Well when push comes to shove, we should know better than to think they'd actually take a stand on something. That's what this is all about. They can't stick with a war for two years, and now they can't even back up their big mouths for more than a few days.
Hilly found another FBI file somewhere.
This should "help" the Dems retake both Houses and the presidency...NOT! LOL
Well, just in case I used the link on FR's "front page" and contacted my rep telling her that I didn't want her and her colleagues to just vote against this insanity but to BURY it.
Added that I consider the WOT the most serious issue facing this country and we expect our elected reps to begin acting like it.
Tell em, Dog! We gotta be sure the Republicans don't let this somehow slide out of their hands. This is a perfect come back to the Traitorous Party. Call in support to the Republicans to stick by their guns - don't let this slip away!
It isn't Murtha's bill they are voting on.
I wonder if it's even remotely possible for this narcissistic blob of protoplasm to view the world from outside the prism of his enormous ego.
It's frightening that a really uncomfortably large minority of stooges actually voted for him.
Congress doesn't get to tell the Commander-in-Chief how to move troops.
They are pathetic but see how many of the Rats are not there to vote. It's time for them to tell the world what they are made of and they are yellow.
I like it. The RINOS get one too.
DEMOCRATS = TRAITORS. period.
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html
"My plan calls:
To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces.
To create a quick reaction force in the region.
To create an over- the- horizon presence of Marines.
To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq"
FROM HIS WEBSITE. (No mention of allies.)
"I don't think that's appropriate..." /roflmao
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