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Mark Steyn: It’s the demography, stupid
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 11/12/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/10/2005 6:06:25 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78

Mark Steyn can write what I think and feel better than anyone.

Another fricking MS home run. Wow.


61 posted on 11/10/2005 7:33:44 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: Pokey78
One day they’ll even be on the beach at St Trop, and if you and your infidel whore happen to be lying there wearing nothing but two coats of Ambre Solaire when they show up, you better hope that the BBC and CNN are right about there being no religio-ethno-cultural component to their ‘grievances’.

Another Steyn classic!!

62 posted on 11/10/2005 7:34:22 AM PST by writmeister
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To: NCSteve

I suspect it went right past M. de Villepin's flowery-furrowed brow :-).


63 posted on 11/10/2005 7:36:34 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: maica

That should scream to the left: "It's the demography, stupid!"


64 posted on 11/10/2005 7:37:52 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Everything I ever needed to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11)
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To: Pokey78
Finished laughing yet? OK, on we go.

Excellent Steyn article. I'd thought of the demographic issues over there, but I'd not really looked closely at effective street power.

Thanks Pokey78!

65 posted on 11/10/2005 7:41:21 AM PST by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Pokey78

bttt


66 posted on 11/10/2005 7:45:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Pokey78

I have found my new tagline!


67 posted on 11/10/2005 7:46:45 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you’re going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: TChris

Er... how about this.


68 posted on 11/10/2005 7:47:24 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: TChris

"you & #8217" ?


69 posted on 11/10/2005 7:47:39 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: TChris

Never mind.


70 posted on 11/10/2005 7:47:56 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: Tax-chick
"you & #8217" ?

LOL! You just gotta love HTML sometimes, don't ya?

71 posted on 11/10/2005 7:48:19 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: TChris

I'm always amazed when it eats the apostrophes.


72 posted on 11/10/2005 7:56:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: Tax-chick
Tax-chick writes:
That's a possibility ... but if the population, and especially the fighting-age population, gets small enough, the Japanese islands are going to look good to some expansionist power.

France has a similar problem.

At the same time the native French are de-populating themselves (with the average age of the native French increasing), the Islamics are breeding without restraint.

Eventually - if the native French don't just surrender first (and I'm not discounting that) - France will face a civil war. A shooting war, requiring soldiers on both sides. A "fight to the finish", after which France will be reconstituted as an Islamic nation, or after which Islamics will be expelled (or worse) from France.

On the Muslim side, there will be no shortage of young males to take up the cause of Allah.

But France may not be able to mount an army of native French large enough to stand against the Muslims. Even if they draft nearly every able-bodied Frenchman. There won't be a large enough cohort from which to draw....

Demography is destiny. Ultimately, morals and culture may not have all that much to do with things when confronted with explosive population growth. Those in the greatest numbers, prevail. Simple, awful - but true.

- John

73 posted on 11/10/2005 7:59:49 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

That's pretty much the point I was making. In the case of Japan, maybe Islam won't be the problem. I'd think the Chinese are more likely to decide they could swallow a decimated, geriatric Japan in one gulp. Plenty of old grudges there, too.

Another possibility is that, if the population of ethnic-Japanese workers gets too small, they'll decided they could bring a few other Asians in to help support the elderly ... and there are plenty of Asian Moslems.


74 posted on 11/10/2005 8:02:53 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: Pokey78

"Well, it’s true there are Muslims and there are Muslims: some blow up Tube trains and some rampage through French streets and some claim Mossad’s put something in the chewing gum to make Arab men susceptible to the seduction techniques of Jewesses. Some kill Dutch film-makers and some complain about Piglet coffee mugs on co-workers’ desks, and millions of Muslims don’t do any of the above but apparently don’t feel strongly enough about them to say a word in protest. And it’s also true that it’s better to have your Peugeot torched than to be blown apart on the Piccadilly Line. But what all these techniques — and those of lobby groups who offer themselves as interlocutors between bewildered European elites and ‘moderate’ Muslims — have in common is that they advance the Islamification of Europe."

Speaking of poetry; Steyn writes a good line, too!

Thanks, Pokey! :)


75 posted on 11/10/2005 8:03:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Pokey78
Few people are as camp in the heart of the mystery as the flowery-furrowed M. de Villepin

OUCH! That's gotta hurt.

There's Mark Steyn, and there's everyone else.

76 posted on 11/10/2005 8:08:37 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Pokey78

Most European nations are doomed by their own birthrates of native populations. They do not have enough babies to replace themselves, they are beyond zero population growth and went into minus population growth

As the birthrate declined after WWII, these nations began to import foreign workers (Germany was first with the Turks)to 'take jobs that German workers won't do."

Sound familiar?


77 posted on 11/10/2005 8:09:22 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Good job!

Better inform Steyn.


78 posted on 11/10/2005 8:14:09 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: Pokey78
It’s not easy lobbing a Molotov cocktail into a police station and then hobbling back on your Zimmer frame across the street before the searing heat of the explosion melts your hip replacement.

When it comes to "painting a picture with words," MS is Rembrandt, DaVinci, Matisse and Wyeth all rolled into one!

79 posted on 11/10/2005 8:16:41 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Tax-chick; A. Pole
Japan Scrambles Fighters 30 Times to Repel Chinese
80 posted on 11/10/2005 8:18:05 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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