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Victor Davis Hanson: Heaven on earth
Jewish World Review ^ | November 10, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:56:55 AM PST by Tolik

In Paris last week, the smoke of riot and fire arose from a West Bank-style intifada of angry Muslim youths. The ports of Spain were shut down by a fishermen's blockade. Hostage ships were freed only after the irate blockaders won more government fuel subsidies.

While traveling the last three weeks from Turkey to Portugal, I was reminded again how different Europe has become from what some Americans idealize as a nirvana of benevolent socialism, universal and free medical care, and sophisticated high culture

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europe; france; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 11/10/2005 4:56:56 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

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Links: FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson 
His website: http://victorhanson.com/     NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp

2 posted on 11/10/2005 4:57:42 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

It's hard to admit you've been living in a fool's paradise, especially when blaming the US for everything unpleasant has worked for so long.


3 posted on 11/10/2005 5:08:35 AM PST by hershey
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To: Tolik

"Few over here realize that they have finally lost American good will . . . "

Yep. I, for one, have had it with a lot of Europeans. Perhaps it is time for this country to concentrate on taking care of US, and let them take care of their own problems.


4 posted on 11/10/2005 5:18:54 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: 4mer Liberal

ping


5 posted on 11/10/2005 5:29:26 AM PST by T Minus Four (Some assembly required.)
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To: Old Grumpy
I keep reading throughout history the unexplained badness of isolationism.
In a world full of killers or parasites, it sounds like a good thing to me!
6 posted on 11/10/2005 5:30:43 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Tolik

Excellent read. Hanson nails it.


7 posted on 11/10/2005 5:33:19 AM PST by randita
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To: Tolik

Right on the money!


8 posted on 11/10/2005 5:50:21 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Tolik
Far more prolific Arabic and Turkish immigrants are welcome to collect the garbage and clean, but not properly intermarry, integrate or assimilate. Still, Europeans do not thereby feel illiberal. After all, they broadcast to the world that they are progressives on humanitarian issues of global poverty, world courts and the environment.

The Codfish lays a thousand eggs,
The humble Hen, but one.
The Codfish doesn't cackle around,
To tell you what she's done.
We dreadfully scorn the Codfish,
While the humble Hen we prize.
All of which goes to show
It pays to advertise.

-- Ogden Nash

9 posted on 11/10/2005 5:53:13 AM PST by gridlock (Remember: Choosy newsies choose Iowahawk!)
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To: Tolik
Because more than a half-million Americans have died in two European wars of the past century, we must hope that this government-mandated heaven works.

If it doesn't work how many more American lives will be lost on European soil after they beg us for help again?

10 posted on 11/10/2005 5:56:06 AM PST by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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To: Noachian
If it doesn't work how many more American lives will be lost on European soil after they beg us for help again?

None, hopefully...

11 posted on 11/10/2005 5:56:54 AM PST by gridlock (Remember: Choosy newsies choose Iowahawk!)
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To: gridlock

That's a problem for many doers: they fail to advertise. Unfortunately it is a must in the world we live.

Amount of information doubles every ten years or so (sometimes feels even faster). So we have oceans of information comparing with our ancestors of just 100 years ago. We benefited from the progress, of course, but this side of the progress complicates our lives immensely. We have too much of the garbage info coming through. It is much easier not to notice a quiet doer now than it used to be.

And not to forget, most of the garbage info is very nicely packaged and is good eye candy.


12 posted on 11/10/2005 6:08:48 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
...the continent's citizens feel that they are now exempt from the harsh reality facing billions of mere mortals in America, China, India and Russia.

They will soon be rousing from their sweet dreams into a wide-awake nightmare.

13 posted on 11/10/2005 8:16:37 AM PST by Gritty ("Decadence is defined not by art or music but by a willingness to defend oneself-Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Tolik
The utopian dream of a 35-hour work week, lifelong job tenure and cradle-to-grave benefits falls victim to a bothersome reality: More competitive Americans, Indians and Chinese have no such pretensions. While Europe gets its beauty rest, others work far harder and longer to produce cheaper things for an ever more price-conscious global consumer.

It is time to stop propping up some of these dysfunctional countries and let nature take it's course of destruction and renewal. We should begin to shift our allegiance to countries that share our vision.

14 posted on 11/10/2005 8:29:43 AM PST by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: Tolik

the new childless European citizen is otherwise too engaged in travel, fine food, global moralizing and intellectual pursuit.

I think VDH mentions something most of us forget. In contrast to most here, I don't see the attitudes of Europeans as living in despair, but rather, complacent and self-indulgent. Just read some of the Eurocrat posteurs on this site (Yes they do exist here, but they rarely respond to VDH's threads) and you will see this side.

15 posted on 11/10/2005 11:27:59 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: Tolik

In the 21st century, Europe is fast on the way to becoming what it was in the early Middle Ages-a collection of petty nation-states half-run by Muslims while the real power is in the East.


16 posted on 11/10/2005 11:32:17 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Tolik

btt


17 posted on 11/11/2005 7:39:43 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: Noachian

"If it doesn't work how many more American lives will be lost on European soil after they beg us for help again?"

- I give most of Western Europe 5 years and France...3.


18 posted on 11/14/2005 5:10:14 PM PST by Frenetic
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To: Noachian
If it doesn't work how many more American lives will be lost on European soil after they beg us for help again?

I personally do not believe that Europe will seek or accept American deliverance again. They are so steeped in their defensive arrogance and so conditioned by their fears of having to confront their inadequacy as a community.

Rather, I expect the trash in charge to stumble into some kind of lame compromise position, fighting a sporadic rearguard action with the advancing islamist domination, and resulting in a long, dwindling, episodically violent, and economically emasculated twilight of European culture.

I do not expect there will be a decisive battle in Europe, as there will be in the Middle East with Israel and her enemies. The euros will submit, not with a bang but a whimper. We have seen the future, the last two weeks.

19 posted on 11/14/2005 5:28:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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