Posted on 11/09/2005 10:43:17 AM PST by texassizednightcrawler
"If you want qualified workers to fuel capitalism, then make it worth it for a student to go to a two-year institution, not a penalty. Cut out the unnecessary courses provided in four-year colleges and help students save money, while getting the training we need to be productive pawns of American society."
Minus the 'productive pawns' class rhetoric crap, this is true, however, and why trade school diplomas like UoPhoenix and DeVry are becoming so widespread. Those schools don't waste students' time on a lot of classes that train people to be 'deep thinking' liberals or employ useless 'deep thinking' liberal 'professors.'
This is the figue I get from my mother. I think that she may have been referring to his whole business, which employed a number of people, tho she continues to say 'my father made...'
And who exactly is "saddling" them with 100 grand in loans but themselves?
you mustn't get out much. The burger-flipping is an exaggeration, but I know plenty people (myself included) who graduated from top universities and are only making squat for money.
As for who saddled: Of course we saddled ourselves, but we saddled ourselves with the expectation we'd get a decent paying job. I was led to believe this by everything I ever read about college before I went and from a lot of what my school said themselves. I grew up in the projects and was the first in my family to go to college (Boston University) and had no one to guide me; no one to tell me what major to take or what was a reasonable limit regarding loans.
Plain in simple, I feel I was taken advantage of by the school and loan department. They prey on young people's naivete and ignorance. Where else could a unemployed 20-year-old be able to take out a $40,000-$50,000 loan with no credit? Do you think a bank would have given that to me for a car or a home? Of course not. So why do we allow banks and schools to saddle young people with outrageous student loans?
We allow it because lots of times they're worth it. Also, the loans are deferred and made at below market rates.
The real problem is someone who, like my sister in law, spend tons of money and years of time getting a masters in music. She cashed in with her degree by teaching piano to local youths while working days for the local free shopper paper. Now her daughter did basically the same thing. Four years of College and a performing music degree of some sort. She (and her mother) bitch about how little money she makes at the take and bake pizza place she works at as an assistant manager.
Although I must admit, I do find some enjoyment in the whole thing since they're such big libs heh heh...
The point is, it's a whole return on investment thing. It doesn't make since to invest $100,000 on something that won't earn you any extra money.
"incoherent"
'Lacking cohesion, connection, or harmony' - that certainly describes the result in many cases of large student debt obligations.
Wow, that reminded me of one of the favorite books I used to read to my son when he was little.
Some days are like that, even in Australia.
It's very cute.
I'll have to check the library - my children are interested in Australia!
Bill Gates did exactly that. Programming schools that just teached programming - no electives in literature, humanities, etc ...
And technical schools do it all the time,training technicians in just what they need.
I'm not one of those people who likes to take advantage of stupid people, but that's just me.
It's called Alexander and the terrible, horrible, no good,
very bad day. IIRC.
Thanks, that rings a bell!
At the rate we're going, you'll soon see a lot of out of work plumbers cause nobody can afford them.
I was one of them myself. Worked hard to get there too. Then my job was offshored and I ended up working low end entry level stuff just to be employed at all. So what. How you are affected doesn't address how many people besides yourself are affected. You seem to think the world is great cause you got yours. I would posit that you haven't gotten yours yet. Wait till you're undermined by cheap foreign labor and end up making 7 bucks an hour. Then tell us how good things are.
How will they keep them when all their customers are earning 7.00 an hour?
Actually, I was thinking it's more like watching the sheep disrobe back to wolf-hood.
My husband took some computer courses after he graduated from high school....but he got tired of correcting teachers' mistakes, and being taught outdated technology. He supports us quite nicely. He has had his own consulting business, and I have been a SAHM since I had my first child.
What a load of tripe.
Easy. They don't work in the ghetto.
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