Posted on 11/09/2005 6:24:13 AM PST by new yorker 77
----------------------------------------------
Precincts Reporting: 2418 of 2426 (99.67%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,542
Total Voting: 1,971,284
Voter Turnout: 44.28 %
----------------------------------------------
Kaine-(D)-1,019,366-51.71%
Kilgore-(R)-907,212-46.02%
Potts Jr-(I)-42,919--2.18%
Write Ins-----1,787--0.09%
Total:----1,971,284
----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
Precincts Reporting: 2493 of 2493 (100.00%)
Registered Voters: 4,108,104
Total Voting: 1,905,511
Voter Turnout: 46.38 %
----------------------------------------------
Warner-(D)-984,177-52.16%
Earley-(R)-887,234-47.03%
Redpath(L)--14,497--0.77%
Write Ins------813--0.04%
Totals---1,886,721
----------------------------------------------
New Jersey-2005 Election Results
6,131 of 6,310 Precincts Reporting
----------------------------------------------
Corzine(D)-1,152,347-53.03%
Forrester(R)-948,372-43.64%
Other---------72,453--3.33%
----------------------------------------------
New Jersey-2005 Election Results
----------------------------------------------
McGreevey(D)-1,214,043-56%
Schundler(R)---908,984-42%
Schluter-------23,475---1%
I think yours is the opinion we need to listen to. An odd year election is the time to look at exactly where we are coming up short as a party and a movement.
Here in the socialist city of Tucson we had two RINO city council members up for re-election and they both got clobbered by far lefties. The Dems are ecstatic today as there are now no remaining Republicans on the council here. They are all crowing that dissatisfaction with Bush is rolling downhill.
The border needs to be addressed. We need a wall and security. If we can't do it with our side in power, the socialists who love illegal votes aren't going to.
How in the world is action going to resurrect those aborted children?
Prop 73 in California losing is remarkable: the debate in California isn't whether abortion should be legal or not. It's whether the parents of a minor seeking surgery
The pro life position has been beaten so far back in Cali that it's astonishing. What a remarkable failure that even such an uncontroversial ballot could be so controversial and in fact lose in California.
Sadly, in some parts of the country, to the extent that Pro Life activists are arguing against abortion entirely, they are not connecting with people and, apparently, stuck on a position that lost almost 30 years ago.
Amazing.
I think we could have won one race, but not 'should' have. The Cali ballots are for more telling that the GOP clearly has lost a whole lot of people in the last year.
Denial isn't a river in egypt. And its not a word Freepers can cope with! :-)
Republicans didn't "lose in all high profile elections except New York City."
Wins for the Dems: retaining Governors in VA and NJ, the state legislature in NJ, and ballot initiatives in CA.
Wins for the Reps: retaining NYC Mayor, the state legislature in VA, and ballot initiatives in OH.
The way I count it, it's 4-3 Dems on the high profile elections.
Dropping down a notch, Republicans pick-up the Lt. Gov. in VA and the Mayor of San Diego.
If, after the December elections in Iraq, Bush announces the beginning of a phase-out of U.S. ground troops in Iraq, the Republicans will go into the 2006 elections with very good prospects.
Good summation bump!
BTW, I'm borrowing your tagline. I hope to return it in early January.
Better, or worse - does not matter. What matters is to have even one [and not necessarily legitimate] more vote than one's nearest competitor. How much consolation was it that WJC was not able to pull even 50% of votes? That bit of info was good for carping only, for he got legitimately elected, and that's the only thing that counted.
What I find interesting is that Forrester, who had the open backing of both the NJGOP and the RNC, did no better than Bret Schundler, who was pretty much rejected by the party, and was pro-life in a mostly pro-choice state. What that says to me is that if we'd run a candidate of substance against Corzine, instead of a pompous windbag, we could have won. (Of course, the alternative view is that no Republican can break 45% in a statewide election. I'd rather not consider that possibility today)
RE: Forrester's ideas--I think people would go for property tax relief if someone credible put forth a credible plan.
Forrester didn't.
Please do borrow my tagline, and encourage others to do the same.
I feel that the GOP would be a lot more successful if they framed issues smarter, and that can start with us.
O'Connor is a fragile old lady who just wants to retire so she can go home finally and take care of her ailing husband. She has had her retirement postponed twice now, and she deserves to be treated fairly by the Senate. They need to act quickly so she can live out her and her husband's remaining days in peace. The Senate really should have let her go home by Christmas.
Wow. Im amazed at the baloney thats circulating about Virginias election. Both in the LSM and to a certain extent amongst conservatives who should know better than to take the conventional wisdom, that is to say LSM wisdom, at face value.
I follow politics in Virginia fairly closely. All you need to know about the Gubernatorial race in Virginia is this: the Republicans ran a poor candidate who in turn ran a poor campaign and lost. The GOP base wasnt motivated, and it didnt bother to show up. End of story, roll credits.
Contrary to the spin of the LSM and so-called experts like Larry Sabato (who is busy trying to peddle a book), politics in Virginia have not taken a sudden turn to the left in reaction to the policies of President Bush. And here are a couple of inconvenient facts that fly in the face of that line of malarkey.
Inconvenient fact number 1: The number of votes cast for the three statewide offices indicate that the Republican candidate for Governor was very unpopular. Here are the vote totals for each of the Republican candidates for the three statewide offices:
Governor: Kilgore 910,023
LT Governor: Bolling- 976,625
Attorney General: Mc Donnell-969,117
Notice something? The total votes received for the Republican LT Governor and AG candidates were higher than those for Governor. The candidate for Governor leads the ticket, not the other way around. If the vote indicated some sort of lingering discontent about conservatism or GOP policies in the general sense, the candidate for Governor might have lost, but would have gotten more votes than the candidates running for the other statewide offices. That didnt happen. The indication then is that there was something wrong with the candidate for Governor.
Inconvenient fact number 2: the entire Virginia House of delegates was up for election as well. All 100 seats. Again, if the election had indicated some general discontent with conservatism or GOP policies in the general sense, you would have expected Republicans in the House to lose a significant number of seats. You would have at least expected some significant change. Well, the upshot is that out of all those 100 seats, several of which were open seats, the GOP is down a total of 2 seats. Losing 2% of the seats is not a landslide.
The sad thing is that the lessons that should be learned about the Virginia election wont be learned. The Democrats will take away the lesson that theres been some sort of sea change in Virginia politics. There hasnt been. The Republicans will take away the message that conservatism was to blame. It wasnt.
Kilgore was not a great candidate, and he had that whacky guy running as an independent and picking up 2% that should have been Kilgore's. So all in all, 46% is pretty good. (If politics were golf, we might be knocking back a few in the clubhouse.)
What I don't understand is why the Democrats would stop a poor old lady from going home to her family around Christmastime, and this time for good. What a wonderful present that would have been for them. How heartless these people are, to deprive her loving husband of her comfort at a time of year we all want to be with family.
Just got e-mail from my brother in VA. He can't believe how what should have been an easy victory go as another loss.
One of the more interesting features about the California liberal mindset? The "celebrity" coupled with the CA psyche: diversity, be your own "personhood" is so overpreached, I wouldn't be surprised to see even those who voted against 73, become radicals against their own vote, over time. And now you might understand.. the Sheehan mindset: for the war, praising the President, a star... and then in a bi-polar fast track to... anti WAR, anti President.
Re: cutting schools. The difficulty with not paying taxes if you don't have children in the schools is that presumably, someone else who didn't have children paid for >your< education. Besides, schools can't be the only problem. I live in a town which has an excellent school system, but has also been very good at holding the line on costs. Nonetheless, my taxes went up very sharply the last two years; they are 66% higher than when we bought the house in 1998.
Whether income or property tax is worse for you depends a lot on which county you live in.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.