LIVE THREAD - California special election (props 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80)

California Secretary of State- Special Statewide Election ^ | Tuesday evening November 8th

[ajolympian2004]

TODAY, Californians are heading to the polls to vote on several major propositions that shall dramatically affect both the political and economic future of our state.

We are following the activity and will report the results.

California Propositions

2.8% of precincts reporting as of Nov 08 08:13 PM PST

Results: http://www.sfgate.com/election/

[SoCalPol]

all the 'talent' have insulted and pi$$ed off the 'little' people and none of us are going to the movies... they need to zip it and keep it zipped -- plus some decent scripts would help.

Ain't that the truth

[Soul Seeker]

Question for Cali residents.

1) Is this a result of giving too many Liberal groups a reason to turn out, effectively ending chances of other measures that might have passed if only joined by only or two propositions?

2) Is this a result of low conservative turnout?

3) Both

4) Something else?

[A CA Guy]

Most conservatives IMO didn't even know it was a day to vote. I called several and they forgot.

The unions and Democrats spent millions ruining Arnold's popularity before these propositions ads even began to get going.
Arnold made the mistake of not fighting back early IMO.

That aside, I think the other side spent about 20% of a billion using effective bullsh#t to sway the few voters.
Then most of the union members and public employees did vote.

So, there was a lot to overcome IMO. Mostly 20% of a billion and a low turn out against most of the unions and government employees all voting.

So what next? Not a problem, send similar initiatives out there again for the next election and let the people get better educated about the real facts and let the unions and democrats spend themselves into bankruptcy fighting these things. That's what should be done IMO.

I think the next regular election will be easier to get things passed. Figure with more regular people voting in the 2006 elections, that unions and democrats could lose big time.

[HitmanLV]

I agree.

[Uncle Kermie]

75 Trendline Continues: Another 3 minutes passed and it falls again to 49.6%.

God help this State.

[puroresu]

As the Latino population grows, things will turn around in California on the abortion issue. Try this referendum again in a few years!

[rdf]

Bedtime for me.

LA County won't do the trick for 73, I guess.

The Westside prevailed.

[newzjunkey]

Arnold's campaign guy on KFI is completely useless.

Just listening to the interview, USELESS is the right word for Mike Murphy, chief political strategist for Arnold. If this is *our* Karl Rove we're in deep trouble. ;)

[Yaelle]

'Cause true fiscal conservatives could win if marketed correctly in this state.

But lots of Republicans won't vote for fiscal conservatives. I agree, we need to start somewhere.

[California Patriot]

"Arnie bled $300 million out of the unions."

Yeah, but they can always get it back. They'll just raise their dues again.

There is no way to put lipstick on this pig. Because there ain't gonna be a "next time." There will be no money for conservative reform initiatives again in California. We probably won't even get the signatures. Arnold may or may not be re-elected. If he is, he won't be able to do a damned thing except make the state fall apart a little more slowly. I'm no longer sure it matters.

[conservative in nyc]

L.A. County is slowly coming in. Now up to 21%. I think 75 will be doomed by L.A. County. 73 will be severely damaged, and probably won't be able to survive the onslaught from the rest of Alameda/Contra Costa/Santa Clara:

MEASURE Votes Percent
73 - TERMINATE MINORS PRGNCY -
YES 264,074 48.36
NO 282,003 51.64

Registration 3,830,529
Precincts Reporting 465
Total Precincts 2,172
% Precincts Reporting 21
http://rrccmain.co.la.ca.us/0035_StateMeasure_Frame.htm

MEASURE Votes Percent
75 - PUBLIC EMPLYEE UNION DUES -
YES 248,453 45.1
NO 302,385 54.9

Registration 3,830,529
Precincts Reporting 465
Total Precincts 2,172
% Precincts Reporting 21
http://rrccmain.co.la.ca.us/0035_StateMeasure_Frame.htm

[Anti-Commi]

Then we are hosed. I bet the absentee voters that wait until the last day to mail it in are 50-50 at best, since it takes a procrastinator to sit on the ballot until the last day. I was hoping that the ones that mailed it in days ago have not yet been counted since those are probably much more favorable to us.

[concerned about politics]

I held out some hope that common sense and decency would somehow prevail. My hopes were misplaced.

Isn't that odd? It's hard to believe mothers don't care if their daughters, no matter what age, are being operated on without them knowing it. It seems so wrong, doesn't it? What kind of mothers are they?

[Torie]

Probably, and too many abortion is a lifestyle, cultural statement, damn the details, issue voters left to be counted in the suburban SF Bay area. It's over. The evening is a bust.

[Yaelle]

75 rising!!!! 49.9 to 50.1!!!!!

[Cedric]

Okay, you're right.

[newzjunkey]

There's no greater silver lining than that. They've spent 3 years worth of future dues, the CTA has even mortaged their headquarter's building in Sacremento.

[gogeo]

I think I'd ignore him...he seems to be working on his @sshole merit badge.

[conservative in nyc]

That was Orange. It will go down again when the LA numbers come in in two minutes or so.

[Third Order]

bump for 73 also. from 58k down to only 37k down