Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane
French police made 395 arrests last night as riots intensified for the 11th consecutive night, with violence and fire engulfing towns from the North to the Mediterranean.
In the impoverished suburbs and satellite towns around Paris, where the unrest began on October 27, churches, schools and warehouses were set alight. At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed, many more than on previous nights, and the random attacks have spread into the heart of the city.
In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.
Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast. In Toulouse, police used tear gas to disperse a mob. Cars were set alight on the streets of Nantes, Orleans, Rennes and Rouen, and youths in St Etienne forced passengers off a bus before burning it. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete.
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In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire. "We’ll stop when Sarkozy steps down," the defiant 17-year-old driver told an Associated Press reporter.
Police are calling for a night-time curfew in affected areas and some senior officers have demanded that troops are brought on to the streets.
Michel Gaudin, France's most senior police officer, said today: "We are witnessing a sort of shock wave that is spreading across the country."
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
But haven't you heard? They are "cracking down"--with curfews (which aren't being honored). I thought a crack down involved a little more than curfews...???
What's your take on the situation today?
I heard on the news during the drive in that 1170 more cars were torched last night. The economic total must really be getting up there.
If cars are 7k each avg and 10k cars have burnt thats $70 million..not even counting the buses, buildings, and tourism losses.
No to mention an unstable nuclear power.
Carolyn
You're right...that point needs to be made. I can't believe the deliberate way in which the MSM is playing down this story. Usually they hype a story like this to death. That convinces me that there's a lot more here than meets the eye so far.
I'm no expert but according to official statistics there were 200 less cars torched, thatn Sunday night, that still means de villepin's speech had little effect.
Another red flag is that the media is portraying the slight decrease in official # of cars burnt as the riots are over, when they are not.
Could you imagine the coverage in the US if say 200 cars were torched in riots. It would be non-stop.
"I think the point we're trying to make is that their own intolerance and refusals to assimilate contributed to their current situations, which they're now trying to blame on others,"
How can anyone assimilate if he cannot get a job, ever?
"Go ahead and try to 'understand' them. I have read enough to know what the hell is going on! This death cult will use whatever EXCUSE they need to accomplish their goals!! If you need some links to their 'fatwas' over the years to WAKE YOUR ASS UP..let me know. I will gladly provide them tomorrow. Until then..u might find more comfort for your passive submittance over at DU!! Good night."
Good morning, Penelope. I hope you had a nice sleep.
The riots are slackening and will continue to do so.
If there is any time for the Muslim extremists to try and radicalize the event by bringing out weapons and shooting the police, it will be now.
"The word, "pellets", used following up the word, "hunting rifles", it was all an effort to confuse and throw dirt in the eyes of the reader, IMO."
Probably it was just a bad translation from a French article.
In French, the word for rifle is "fusil". And the word for shotgun is "fusil".
So, if someone was translating an article from a French source, he (or his Babblefish program) translated the pellets, but then translated "fusil" as "rifle", which is the normal translation, instead of "shotgun", which would have been idiomatic in English.
Yes, it is a mess.
It is an ecto-mess, the mess-above-all-messes.
It is THE reason France cannot grow properly, and always hobbles along.
For all else flows from the vigor of an economy, and French economic vigor is not sapped by a lack of talented workers, nor by a lack of labor, nor by a lack of material resources, nor by a lack of available capital, nor, even, by excessive tax regimes and over-regulation. French taxes are not low, but they are not crushing. French regulations are not ridiculous, except in the fatal area that matters most.
France's economy cannot grow properly and provide employment because the employment law is utterly rigid, and discourages hiring. There is no way to get around it. And there is no will to change it.
You cannot assimilate anybody if he can't get a job, and people can't get jobs in France because the labor laws are insane.
And France's labor laws are MILD compared to Germany and Spain.
It is from the fatal flaws of French labor law that every other terrible problem in France flows, for it is the labor law that chokes the economy half to death.
The problem is not even vacations and benefits; although they are generous, France's economy could continue to do well if they were preserved. No, it is the inability to lay people off for economic reasons. This means that nobody hires anybody if he can at all help it. Whatever can be done by a machine in France, is done by a machine.
You cannot get people off welfare and integrated if they can't get a job. And people at the margins can't get jobs when the labor law is so punitive.
In mathematics, Descates (invented analytic geometry--it revolutionized mathematics), Fermat (greatest mathematician of the 17th C.), Pascal (many contributions, including probability), Lagrange (greatest mathematician of the 18th C.), Laplace, Monge, Fourier, Poncelet, Cauchy, Galois, Hermite, Poincare, and many more. And there are just as many names in any other discipline whose history that you might care to study.
You may disdain the French at the moment. It is a culture in decline along with all of Western Europe as it abdicates its own genius that it no longer believes in. Europe is in disintegration as it submits passively to its demanding Muslim immigrants. I find nothing to celebrate in any of this.
But neither will I let the callapse of European civilization in the present--even if self induced--obscure the great achievements of the past. Those geniuses whose names I have mentioned and many more unnamed elicite only my admiration and respect.
Ok, I've finished vomiting. Was that Bush or Rice?
Florida takes a lot of flack for this -- no such thing as guaranteed job security here unless you work for the government or a tenured position.
I personally don't think it is such a bad thing. I'd certainly take it over France's policies any day.
Excuse me, but it means nothing of the sort.
Nothing at all. - It pertains to right of an employer to replace striking workers while they are on strike.
Notihing can be construded as to meaning a curtailment of a citizens right to sue his employer for unreasonable discharge. - It's done every day.
Even by Hooters employees.
FLORIDA
Fla. Const. Article 1, § 6
§ 6. Right to Work
The right of persons to work shall not be denied or abridged on account of membership or non-membership in any labor union or labor organization. The right of employees, by and through a labor organization, to bargain collectively shall not be denied or abridged. Public employees shall not have the right to strike. (Adopted at General Election November 5, 1968.)
Fla. Stat. Ann. § 447.17
§ 447.17 Civil remedy; injunctive relief
(1) Any person who may be denied employment or discriminated against in his employment on account of membership or nonmembership in any labor union or labor organization shall be entitled to recover from the discriminating employer, other person, firm, corporation, labor union, labor organization, or association, acting separately or in concert, in the courts of this state, such damages as he may have sustained and the costs of suit, including reasonable attorney's fees. If such employer, other person, firm, corporation, labor union, labor organization, or association acted willfully and with malice or reckless indifference to the rights of others, punitive damages may be assessed against such employer, other person, firm, corporation, labor union, labor organization, or association.
(2) Any person sustaining injury as a result of any violation or threatened violation of the provisions of this section shall be entitled to injunctive relief against any and all violators or persons threatening violation.
(3) The remedy and relief provided for by this section shall not be available to public employees as defined in part II of this chapter. (Enacted 1974; amended 1977.)
In practical terms, it means you can be fired for virtually any reason not specifically protected by law. An employer has no duty to employ. And yes, you have a right to sue an employer for unreasonable discharge. You have the right to sue anyone for virtually anything -- doesn't mean you'll prevail. You will prevail if you can prove that you were discriminated against by reason of things protected by state or federal law.
Hooters lawsuits were based on sex discrimination -- which is one of those protected classes. You can sue if you were fired for being a whistle-blower, as that is protected by law. But if your employer decides to downsize, or decides he just doesn't like you because you are tough to get along with, or he thinks you're too fat (not protected yet), he can. There is no law requiring an employer to keep an employee, unless the discharge is for specific reasons specifically prescribed by law.
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