Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane
French police made 395 arrests last night as riots intensified for the 11th consecutive night, with violence and fire engulfing towns from the North to the Mediterranean.
In the impoverished suburbs and satellite towns around Paris, where the unrest began on October 27, churches, schools and warehouses were set alight. At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed, many more than on previous nights, and the random attacks have spread into the heart of the city.
In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.
Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast. In Toulouse, police used tear gas to disperse a mob. Cars were set alight on the streets of Nantes, Orleans, Rennes and Rouen, and youths in St Etienne forced passengers off a bus before burning it. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete.
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In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire. "We’ll stop when Sarkozy steps down," the defiant 17-year-old driver told an Associated Press reporter.
Police are calling for a night-time curfew in affected areas and some senior officers have demanded that troops are brought on to the streets.
Michel Gaudin, France's most senior police officer, said today: "We are witnessing a sort of shock wave that is spreading across the country."
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
His mother is Greek/Jewish.
THE CHIRAC DOCTRINE (SNIP)
http://www.meforum.org/article/772
"...The deaths of Hafez al-Assad, Arafat, and Hariri, as well as the ouster of Saddam Hussein suggest that the political benefits of the Chirac doctrine may be fleeting. Developing relationships takes time. The new Iraqi government resents the French embrace of Saddam Hussein. If other Middle Eastern dictatorships succumb to the tentative wave of democratization, there is no guarantee they will embrace Paris or honor commercial accords made
under dictatorship. But growing Islamist pressure inside France may, nevertheless, push Chirac and his successors to pursue an even more pro-Arab policy. The legacy of the Chirac doctrine, though, may not be the French grandeur that Chirac and his allies seek, but rather a reputation for cynicism, hostility to democracy and reform, and association with the worst excesses of Middle Eastern society.
The deaths of Hafez al-Assad, Arafat, and Hariri, as well as the ouster of Saddam Hussein suggest that the political benefits of the Chirac doctrine may be fleeting. Developing relationships takes time. The new Iraqi government resents the French embrace of Saddam Hussein. If other Middle Eastern dictatorships succumb to the tentative wave of democratization, there is no guarantee they will embrace Paris or honor commercial accords made under dictatorship. But growing Islamist pressure inside France may, nevertheless, push Chirac and his successors to pursue an even more pro-Arab policy. The legacy of the Chirac doctrine, though, may not be the French grandeur that Chirac and his allies seek, but rather a reputation for cynicism, hostility to democracy and reform, and association with the worst excesses of Middle Eastern society.
The deaths of Hafez al-Assad, Arafat, and Hariri, as well as the ouster of Saddam Hussein suggest that the political benefits of the Chirac doctrine may be fleeting. Developing relationships takes time. The new Iraqi government resents the French embrace of Saddam Hussein. If other Middle Eastern dictatorships succumb to the tentative wave of democratization, there is no guarantee they will embrace Paris or honor commercial accords made under dictatorship. But growing Islamist pressure inside France may, nevertheless, push Chirac and his successors to pursue an even more pro-Arab policy. The legacy of the Chirac doctrine, though, may not be the French grandeur that Chirac and his allies seek, but rather a reputation for cynicism, hostility to democracy and reform, and association with the worst excesses of Middle Eastern society."
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(There's something about lying down with dogs and getting up with fleas...do you need a french translation?)
"How do you know what Villepin dreams..."
Perhaps because Villepin published a book about Napoleon's 100 Days and does not hide his unabashed admiration for Napoleon in his writings and speaking engagements?
Vicomte13 has been on our side for a long time now Hoss.
This was written to you by another poster but I wanted to warn you...my booze sniffing dog told me that this comment reeked of cheap Scotch.
"(There's something about lying down with dogs and getting up with fleas...do you need a french translation?)"
No, I think I got it.
Oh my goodness. That reminds me to get my coif trimmed tomorrow. I wonder if reading books can turn sissies into men. "Mommie, where are my Churchill books? Get them for me, I am feeiing rather masculine tonight."
LOL! I won't. I'm quitting. A good FReeper friend just told me, 'use your energies on those whose development holds out hope.'
All we are getting here is propaganda of the regurgitated variety.
I've found le vicomte to be truthful in his past posts. I suspect he is caught up in head scratching as is everyone in France. After all, they really, really do believe their system would make everyone happy.
If they rounded the rioters up and shot them it would make a more lasting impact.
Desperate I tell ya...desperate!!!
Basing your argument on your seniority is just another way to avoid the topic.
NOOBS.
;)
I suspect you are correct...but instead of being dumfounded, he is still defensive. Strange response.
"Is the insurrection an Islam thing, or poverty of the citizens issue?"
Sorry, but you shouldn't be asking me that question. I am a descendant of immigrants who arrived in Australia with one suitcase of belongings between three people. We lived in a shack without plumbing or power and rode bicycles to work - so you see, my reply would be biased against buer yoots who burn 28.000 motor vehicles in less than a year - or a thousand in one night, for that matter, while yelling
Allah akbar!
You're pulling my leg, right?
I'm sure the young folk did this simply because they wanted jobs ( /sarcasm).
He/she needs to do what all writers must do. He/she needs to step away from his/her pronouncements. Truth (as pronounced) will stand or fall on its own. And the truth will rise above the one who proclaims it (except for One who was the embodiment of It).
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