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France reacts to 'shockwave of riots'(Paris/France burns Live Thread Night #12)
Times of London ^ | 11/07/05 | Simon Freeman, Charles Bremner

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane

French police made 395 arrests last night as riots intensified for the 11th consecutive night, with violence and fire engulfing towns from the North to the Mediterranean.

In the impoverished suburbs and satellite towns around Paris, where the unrest began on October 27, churches, schools and warehouses were set alight. At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed, many more than on previous nights, and the random attacks have spread into the heart of the city.

In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.

Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast. In Toulouse, police used tear gas to disperse a mob. Cars were set alight on the streets of Nantes, Orleans, Rennes and Rouen, and youths in St Etienne forced passengers off a bus before burning it. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete.

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In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire. "We’ll stop when Sarkozy steps down," the defiant 17-year-old driver told an Associated Press reporter.

Police are calling for a night-time curfew in affected areas and some senior officers have demanded that troops are brought on to the streets.

Michel Gaudin, France's most senior police officer, said today: "We are witnessing a sort of shock wave that is spreading across the country."

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KEYWORDS: france; frenchifada; frenchweasels; hoodlums; insurgency; leintifada; ouihad; parisintifada; parisriots; punks; thugs; uprising; wot; yoots; youths
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To: LikeLight

This only goes to prove the youths have not assimilated into French society. They don't capitulate. They don't surrender.


561 posted on 11/07/2005 6:38:36 PM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: Kristopher

"How surprising that you would live in America and have family liing just where the troubles are.
Or you are lying or antagonising people. I think the former."

You are correct as you said. The former.
I am living in America, and I have family right there in Bondy.
The latter, that I am lying is not correct.
As to antagonizing people, I have not written much that is antagonistic. I have written things that are true, as far as I can see and as far as the people I have spoken with have told me. If someone finds that antagonistic because it does not fit the way he wishes to look at the situation, the problem does not lie with me but with him.


562 posted on 11/07/2005 6:39:16 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

You would be completely, utterly, and totally incorrect.

But then, you're French, so you must be used to that.


563 posted on 11/07/2005 6:42:03 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Chanticleer

"I don't think Vicomte13 is trying to antagonize -- he/she was trying to give a well-reasoned analysis from his/her perspective."

That is correct.


564 posted on 11/07/2005 6:43:10 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

Where are you from?


565 posted on 11/07/2005 6:43:46 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: LikeLight
Thx LikeLight...excellent info. If this isn't Islamic...the Islamics are being outdone by a bunch of punks. Highly unlikely.

Hooligans don't have the advantage of 1,400 years of preparation.

566 posted on 11/07/2005 6:44:41 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: appalachian_dweller

When I am forced to traverse the very beautiful yet politicallyphucedupstate of Kali I tote my Garand along.....semi auto, no large capacity mags, 8 round enbloc clips, good caliber choice, proven in the finest of real world field tests.

Rides nicely in a golf bag w/ a 9 iron cozy cover or in a HiLift Sheepherders jack commercially sold cover.........

Kewl Kali Killer Korrectness per se....


567 posted on 11/07/2005 6:44:42 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Dark Skies

"Open your mind. Chirac and Villepin are opening theirs...and I imagine it is quite painful."

The same. Open your mind.
You see a Muslim insurgency. That is your template. You are determined that it be so.

I do not. Not yet anyway. I see the serious threat that, as the riots peter out because of arrests and police presence, that the radical Islamist elements that are in the society will attack with heavier weapons. When that happens it will truly be the moment of truth.


568 posted on 11/07/2005 6:47:45 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

You've seen this before...we've added a question regarding France this week.

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual events from history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by



a. Superman
b. Jay Leno


c. Harry Potter


d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40



2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by



a. Olga Corbett


b. Sitting Bull


c. Arnold Schwarzenegger


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:



a. Lost Norwegians


b. Elvis


c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:



a. John Dillinger


b. The King of Sweden


c. The Boy Scouts


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:





a. A pizza delivery boy


b. Pee Wee Herman


c. Geraldo Rivera


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:



a. The Smurfs


b. Davy Jones


c. The Little Mermaid


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:



a. Captain Kidd


b. Charles Lindberg


c. Mother Teresa


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:



a. Scooby Doo


b. The Tooth Fairy


c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:



a. Richard Simmons


b. Grandma Moses


c. Michael Jordan


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:



a. Mr. Rogers


b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems


c. The World Wrestling Federation


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaini! ng two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:



a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd


b. The Supreme Court of Florida


c. Mr. Bean


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:





a. Enron


b. The Lutheran Church


c. The NFL


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:



a. Bonnie and Clyde


b. Captain Kangaroo


c. Billy Graham


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40





NEW QUESTIONS!

14. After getting rid of Saddam Hussein, the American soldiers and Iraqi people are being threatened with car bombs and suicide bombers by:

a. NASA Astronauts
b. Star Jones
c. Dan Rather
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

15. In 2005 the streets of Paris, France were set ablaze--a nursery school was burned and hundreds of cars were torched by:

a. Karl Rove
b. George W. Bush
c. Simon Cowell of American Idol
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

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569 posted on 11/07/2005 6:48:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: CindyDawg
Where are you from?

Nantucket. I am channeling Nantucket...

570 posted on 11/07/2005 6:50:01 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Vicomte13
But if you did, your Texas justice system would prosecute you for it.

Once again, you are incorrect. Please provide a link to Texas criminal code for verification of your claim.

571 posted on 11/07/2005 6:50:20 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: Vicomte13
You are determined that it be so.

I didn't say that, did I?

572 posted on 11/07/2005 6:52:11 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Squantos; Plutarch

Thanks for the info Squantos.

Plutarch, ping to #537. Looks like the Garand would be a good choice.


573 posted on 11/07/2005 6:52:36 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Get Prepared. Stay Prepared. See my FR Homepage for a list of actions and supplies.)
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To: Dark Skies

Too chilly to be boating:')


574 posted on 11/07/2005 6:52:52 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Enchante

Also do not underestimate the powerful effect on the society that returning veterans of the American War had when they brought the ideas and experiences back from America with them.


575 posted on 11/07/2005 6:53:37 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13
he is experiencing a social explosion of disaffected French youth.

How can there be any "disaffected French youth" when you have been telling us on these threads for months now that France was doing a great job of integrating Muslim immigrants into French society? And you dismissed any one who suggested that riots were coming in the near future.

576 posted on 11/07/2005 6:54:37 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: Dane
Funny, but the solution to "the Islam issue" is the same as the solution to "Global Warming": more Socialism.

Man... Socialism is a "wonder drug".

577 posted on 11/07/2005 6:55:17 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad...Jihadn't.)
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To: CindyDawg
I am sure that little Johnny Kerry has a heater in his Scaramouche (Hinckley 42 - see pic)


578 posted on 11/07/2005 6:56:40 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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Placemarker.


579 posted on 11/07/2005 6:56:40 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Dark Skies
Now, I feel disenfranchised:")
580 posted on 11/07/2005 6:58:59 PM PST by CindyDawg
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