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Thousand cars torched in latest French riots(Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #11)
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Elisabeth Pineau

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane

Thousand cars torched in latest French riots Sun Nov 6, 2005 12:17 PM GMT

By Elisabeth Pineau

PARIS (Reuters) - Gangs of youths torched 1,300 vehicles overnight in the 10th consecutive night of violence in Paris's poor suburbs and major French towns, despite the deployment of thousands of extra police.

Cars were burnt out in the historic centre of Paris for the first time on Saturday night. In the normally quiet Normandy town of Evreux, a shopping mall, 50 vehicles, a post office and two schools went up in flames.

Authorities have so far found no way beyond appeals and more police to address a problem with complex social, economic and racial causes.

Evreux mayor Jean-Louis Debre, a confidant of President Jacques Chirac and speaker of the lower house of parliament, told France Info radio:

"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

The deaths 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing police ignited pent up frustrations among young men, many of them Muslims of North and black African origin, at racism, unemployment, their marginal place in French society and their treatment by the police.

"Many youths have never seen their parents work and couldn't hold down a job if they got one," said Claude Chevallier, manager of a burned-out carpet depot in the rundown Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois.

But authorities now say the rolling nightly riots are being organised via the Internet and mobile phones, and have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.

Overnight, 1,295 vehicles were torched across France, the highest total so far, police said. An extra 2,300 officers have been drafted in.

Seven police helicopters buzzed over the Paris region through the night, filming disturbances and directing mobile squads to incidents. Overnight, police made 349 arrests.

The number of incidents in the Paris region was similar to the night before, but in the provinces it was up sharply.

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The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid Paris's troubled suburbs.

Villepin has combined a call for an end to the riots with dialogue with community leaders, youngsters and local officials, and has promised an action plan for 750 tough neighbourhoods.

"I'll make proposals as early as this week," the weekly Journal du Dimanche quoted him as saying.

But it remained unclear what could stop the violence, though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Accused of stoking passions by calling troublemakers "scum", Sarkozy has ignored calls to quit. A survey published on Sunday indicated his public image was holding up, even if many disapproved of his strong language.

Villepin also has ambitions to be the right wing's presidential candidate in 2007 and has tried to position himself as a much more consensual figure than Sarkozy; the effect on the crisis on his ratings is still unclear.

With no end in sight to the nights of wailing sirens, acrid smoke, stone-throwing and destruction, residents from all ethnic backgrounds are tiring of the unrest.

"My kids can't sleep at night," said a mother named Samia in Aulnay-sous-Bois. "They hear explosions, they see fires and they think they're in a war. When the slightest thing happens, they get anxious and say 'Mama, what's going on?'"


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KEYWORDS: charlesmartel; france; insurgency; parisriots
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To: Dane

I told one of my liberal coworkers that soon the DUmmies would be blaming the riots on us. Finally they have figured out it's the USA or CIA or W's fault. See the thread with "Molotov cocktail" in the title. What a clueless bunch.


41 posted on 11/06/2005 5:32:04 AM PST by gbaker
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To: bronxboy

"They are not youths. They are followers of the religion of peace."

You have to admit this article is an improvement. They are now mentioning "Muslim" in the 5th paragraph (as opposed to the last) and for the first time I saw "Islamic militants", even though they stuck it near the end.


42 posted on 11/06/2005 5:32:29 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Dane
There is a lot more than cars burning in Paris. Just look at this slide show before Reuters takes it down.
43 posted on 11/06/2005 5:33:18 AM PST by joshhiggins
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To: Dane

"My kids can't sleep at night," said a mother named Samia in Aulnay-sous-Bois. "They hear explosions, they see fires and they think they're in a war."

This ladies' kids have a clearer vision than the MSM.


44 posted on 11/06/2005 5:33:30 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Dane
OK, I'm beyond the point where I believe the French have a chance in this matter. Both sides are reprehensible and I'm beyond disgust.

Rather than waste my time with concern, let's start a drinking game!

The rules:

Drink any time that an Islamofascist:

1) Torches a nursery school

2) Douses an invalid with gasoline and tosses a match

3) Beats an innocent fellow man to death while claiming to promote a religion of peace

4) Burns a car or destroys property because they have a problem with self-esteem or can't find a job

5) Blames the Jews

6) Blames the Christians

7) Blames President Bush or FEMA (True, this is France but you just know they had something to do with it!)

45 posted on 11/06/2005 5:33:36 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: navysealdad

"The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid Paris's troubled suburbs.

Villepin has combined a call for an end to the riots with dialogue with community leaders, youngsters and local officials, and has promised an action plan for 750 tough neighbourhoods. "

This is exactly what our commie mayor in Toronto is doing. The same gangs are killing each other in broad daylight on main streets during rush hour, and he's offering them basketball courts and "action plans". We'll be next, I guarantee it. The Americans better prepare their border crossings with Ontario and Quebec.


46 posted on 11/06/2005 5:34:50 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: DB

This is worse than apeasement they are doing, but complete surrender and a new form of confederate France unheard of. The 5th Republic is a deadhorse getting beat still.

Pouring money into neighborhoods who want to make their own law independently of France is basicaly subsidizing those states and making them stronger and vindicated.

It's screwed, because a rollback of this substatehood would mean an end to the disponibility of France to those substates, which would mean a defiance to socialism and corruption finger pointing as those too are systems which got French disponibility.

Look no further than a blackmail situation where the reds are poised to join the islamofascists to claim their goods.

By the way, while this is going on, there are major threats of strikes by public transportation across France...fun fun fun...


47 posted on 11/06/2005 5:35:39 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Caipirabob
1) Torches a nursery school

Yikes! That's not right.

48 posted on 11/06/2005 5:36:32 AM PST by hobson
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To: Dane
Authorities have so far found no way beyond appeals...though some opposition parties have suggested a symbolic measure -- the resignation of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy blah blah blah...

Pweeze, stop ze wioting...Oui zurrendaire!
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it remained unclear what could stop the violence

Lots of large bullets, tanks, mass arrests and immediate deportation usually covers it.

49 posted on 11/06/2005 5:37:06 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The mooslims have no reason to stop this intifada now until they get their own "peace process" and demands formulated by AlQaeda via rioter proxy.

We are watching the near implosion of a whole country. It's going to be very interesting to see where this is going to lead to, but I would not let up if I were muslims, they are in a good position to get almost anything they want very soon, after all.


50 posted on 11/06/2005 5:37:58 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Dane

Set aside the pathetic political leadership in France for a moment. Are the imam's and other "muslim leaders" calling for an end to the violence? Are the muslim parents of these vermin getting control of their children? Is the muslim community cooperating with police to find the leaders behind the riots?

While I have not seen anything in the media, the answer to these questions is most certainly, NO. The muslim islamist culture is the enemy within. France and other Eurabia nations better take the gloves off and deal with this enemy.


51 posted on 11/06/2005 5:38:35 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Caipirabob
I think you would have a hard time getting any work done. Even taking a thimble size shot for each act you'd be drunk 24/7. :-) .
52 posted on 11/06/2005 5:39:06 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

Yeah, that'll show 'em! Peace is bound to swiftly follow such a stirring comment.

53 posted on 11/06/2005 5:39:16 AM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: moose2004

moose, i agree this is priceless. buttttttttttttt, now that im reading these threads for a few days, im beginning to think that they just cant be real. i mean, even the french arent this stupid, are they? btw, how much anyone wanna bet some of the worst muslim offenders will be encouraged to emigrate to the usa by france? dont laugh, cuba did it and it worked for them by a factor of 100,000. something to be aware of anyways. sorry, our govt is not to be bothered by migrants of any sort, silly me.


54 posted on 11/06/2005 5:40:27 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: hobson

Yes, but even the parents think it was Sarkozy's fault.


55 posted on 11/06/2005 5:40:36 AM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: Dane

They should call Tel Aviv and ask for advice.


56 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:00 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: navysealdad

LOL


57 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:09 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: stopem

This is why we have the second amendment. It must be passionately protected.


58 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:30 AM PST by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: not2worry
However, I do believe the Militia would take up the lack of leadership.

It seems to me that people would tend to take a stand in their own neighborhoods, their own blocks, their own streets where people live that they know personally.

If there were bands of youths rioting and burning cars so close to my house that I could see and hear them, burning my neighbors' cars, I guarantee there would be at least six riflescopes out the windows on my little street alone. With all the guns supposedly owned in France, I'm surprised we're not hearing about enraged homeowners taking some of the rioters out. Maybe they are, but the French media doesn't want that particular message to spread.

59 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:49 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Dane

Mark Steyn reports that police officers in Brussels have long been advised not to drink coffee in public during Ramadan. I had no idea that such concessions were being made for the islamofascists.


60 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:52 AM PST by Peach (The Dems enabled Able Danger. 3,000 Americans died.)
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