Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Nokia Linux-based web tablet on sale at last
The Register ^ | Friday 4th November 2005 11:56 GMT | Dinesh C Sharma

Posted on 11/04/2005 6:15:02 AM PST by PissAndVinegar

Nokia has begun shipping its Linux-based Nokia 770, the so-called "Internet tablet", according to the Finnish giant's direct-sales website.

The device lacks the usual Nokia mobile phone technology, relying instead on Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) and Bluetooth to connect it to a broadband connectivity host. The 770 is pitched at consumers who want to access the Internet for emailing and web browsing anywhere in their home.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: linux; nokia; oss; tablet
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
Communism has gone mobile...
1 posted on 11/04/2005 6:15:02 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

For the tech ping..


2 posted on 11/04/2005 6:16:29 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar
Communism has gone mobile...

How do you mean?

3 posted on 11/04/2005 6:40:27 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: frogjerk

Just a joke...there's a bunch of Freepers who feel open source software is communist for some reason.


4 posted on 11/04/2005 6:46:32 AM PST by PissAndVinegar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar
Just a joke...there's a bunch of Freepers who feel open source software is communist for some reason.

That's what I thought but I didn't know if you were from the dark side or not... ;)

5 posted on 11/04/2005 6:47:54 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar

6 posted on 11/04/2005 7:17:01 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar

7 posted on 11/04/2005 7:19:04 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

8 posted on 11/04/2005 7:21:10 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: frogjerk
This is probably where Linux can shine - small, limited-function appliances. I hope this works as I would like to see more advancements in PDA/phone OS's.

I am neither an MS or Linux basher but know that, as a system admin, I will take Win2K and XP over ANY UX system as a general rule.

I use RedHat/Fedora and Suse Linux daily. (also HPUX and Solaris) Though they have their niche for some systems/apps, like MS OS's, their shortcomings are numerous:

1. Linux is not nearly as stable as most UX "cheerleaders" claim. I have to reboot most of my UX systems many more times than I do my Win2K Server and WinXP Pro systems.

2. They aren't free and most Linux-based solutions cost more than MS solutions in the long run. Our estimated labor hours to support a Linux system is TRIPLE that of our MS systems. This is a truly amazing stat as it does seem that we have to patch our MS systems many times a year. Bear in mind that our system admins average around 65K a year - their time is valuable and costly. Patching Windows and troubleshooting UX boxes are both time consuming but MS actually takes less time.

3. Linux is still not a true replacement for Windows for the end user. If you don't believe this, you don't know the "technical proficiency" of our end users.

4. End user applications for Linux just aren't available as a general rule. Yes, you can find substititions for many Windows programs but just look at your favorite software store and compare shelf space. Not even close.

Windows and *UX each have their benefits and their costs. However, if an application can run on either platform, I say from experience - give me the Windows version.

9 posted on 11/04/2005 7:40:15 AM PST by DesertSapper (I Love God, Family, Country! (and dead terrorists))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce
Ha! This is great. Glad they brought it to production. Lots of memories behind the project.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

10 posted on 11/04/2005 7:43:10 AM PST by rdb3 (Does this wheelchair make me look fat?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DesertSapper
1. Linux is not nearly as stable as most UX "cheerleaders" claim. I have to reboot most of my UX systems many more times than I do my Win2K Server and WinXP Pro systems.

I reboot my Linux servers four times a year for scheduled kernel patches. Out side of that I can count on one hand the number of times I have had to reboot any of my production state Linux boxes over the past 3 years... Linux is as stable as you build it to be, vanilla out of the box it has issues like *any* vanilla out of the box os.

Linux? we have two Linux admins and Windows admins for a similar number of production boxes of which the big database servers are Linux..

Windows and *UX each have their benefits and their costs. However, if an application can run on either platform, I say from experience - give me the Windows version.

I think *you're* experience is just as anecdotal as the *NIX "Cheerleaders" you claim make outrageous claims and your claims are just as based in your bias.. Which is better *NIX or Windows depends on so many factors anything but an individual TCO per server makes no sense..

11 posted on 11/04/2005 7:48:37 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DesertSapper
I disagree with your observations as I have much experience in the networking and security realm of IT and come to different conclusions...

1. Linux is not nearly as stable as most UX "cheerleaders" claim. I have to reboot most of my UX systems many more times than I do my Win2K Server and WinXP Pro systems.

Not in my experience. Win2K Server is much more stable than say WinNT 4.0 but doesn't come close to the stability of a properly configured Linux system. Many of the problems that I come across with the Windows systems is the constant "reboot to update the system" for security and system patches (which come out constantly).

2. They aren't free and most Linux-based solutions cost more than MS solutions in the long run. Our estimated labor hours to support a Linux system is TRIPLE that of our MS systems. This is a truly amazing stat as it does seem that we have to patch our MS systems many times a year. Bear in mind that our system admins average around 65K a year - their time is valuable and costly. Patching Windows and troubleshooting UX boxes are both time consuming but MS actually takes less time.

This I believe it red-herring. Yes, Linux and *NIX administrators require a steeper learning curve and that translates into dollars of training and salary but the trade off is the stability of the product. I cannot tell you how many extra hours of pay or comptime that has been paid out in my experience with people jerking around with Windows boxes that have crashed or are hung and need to be rebuilt.

3. Linux is still not a true replacement for Windows for the end user. If you don't believe this, you don't know the "technical proficiency" of our end users.

It has made a marked progress in the arena. I believe has more and more to do with users not wanting to change, which is a very strong human trait, that with the lack of software available to do their everyday tasks. But that is my opinion.

4. End user applications for Linux just aren't available as a general rule. Yes, you can find substitutions for many Windows programs but just look at your favorite software store and compare shelf space. Not even close.

This is not where many of these end-user apps reside. The vast majority are open-source software available for free download and use. You will not find them at Electronics Boutique or CompUSA. Never the less, they work.

12 posted on 11/04/2005 8:47:49 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar

I just wanna know how much this little jewel is gonna run me


13 posted on 11/04/2005 1:47:48 PM PST by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar
Dang, that thing is butt-ugly.


14 posted on 11/04/2005 4:06:50 PM PST by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar

Got one of these on order - should be with me early next week. I'll post some piccies of it displaying FR...


15 posted on 11/04/2005 4:19:11 PM PST by toadthesecond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Buck W.; clyde asbury; ...

OSS PING

If you are interested in the OSS ping list please mail me

16 posted on 11/05/2005 8:29:59 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar
Communism has gone mobile...

Surely, Fascism and Socialism must follow.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 10:35:55 AM PST by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DesertSapper
1. Linux is not nearly as stable as most UX "cheerleaders" claim. I have to reboot most of my UX systems many more times than I do my Win2K Server and WinXP Pro systems.

This is quite odd as I only reboot mine maybe twice a year for cleaning and what-not. Out of the sixty or so that I manage, none have required a "three-fingered salute" to solve problems.

I use RedHat/Fedora and Suse Linux daily.

The former might explain your difficulties. Fedora can be *very* quirky. Not so sure about SuSE as I haven't used it in a number of years.

2. They aren't free and most Linux-based solutions cost more than MS solutions in the long run. Our estimated labor hours to support a Linux system is TRIPLE that of our MS systems....

Nothing is free. Your labor hours *shouldn't* be quite that high, though. I mean no offense, but, it indicates to me an IT staff that isn't very *nix savvy. If you are coming from a 100% MS network, this is to be expected. After a while, administering *nix boxes is almost effortless.

3. Linux is still not a true replacement for Windows for the end user. If you don't believe this, you don't know the "technical proficiency" of our end users.

Now this I agree with 100%. There is a learning curve that can be rather steep in some cases. Most end-users do not want to fool with it.

I say from experience - give me the Windows version.

I say from my experience, don't place that cumbersome kludge anywhere near my private systems ;) Okay..I do boot into it on occasion to play HalfLife 2.

18 posted on 11/05/2005 10:49:06 AM PST by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: PissAndVinegar
They've yet to sell me on the entire tablet-PC form factor.

It's too big to be a PDA and too small to be a PC.

To each his/her own, I guess.
19 posted on 11/05/2005 10:51:47 AM PST by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: martin_fierro
Very cute! So ... does it synch with Outlook?
;-)
20 posted on 11/05/2005 11:45:24 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson