Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser
Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.
Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.
"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."
The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."
"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."
Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.
"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."
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Do you believe Terri's fall woke Michael?
But, Terri wasn't killed, by stabbing, by gunshot or by strangulation. She lived. Perhaps no one intended to kill her, but only intended to keep her quiet.
Perhaps that person "accidentally" suffocated her, but she recovered. Neighbors didn't report Terri shouting for help. Were there any reports of a disturbance that night?
It would seem that one can chose between
1. the story that Terri collapsed orWhich of these options do you chose to believe? Maybe I am missing a third option? I'm open to your input.
2. the story that Terri was quietly injured by someone.
There are ways to suffocate/silence people that leave little evidence
Burking originally referred to killing by closing the nose with two fingers or inserting fingers in the nostrils and then clamping the mouth shut with thumb or elbow, suffocating the victim.
People can be suffocated if they are held in a manner that prevents chest expansion, too.
Alive - after 63 days under rubble (I CAN'T IMAGINE THE HORROR)
8mm
Yet Williams' was still placed high on a pedestal of greatness. People who fought for Terri Schiavo to be taken off of life support fought for Stanley "Tookie" Williams to be kept on it. Williams was treated as the Jesus of the left.
8mm
Change of topic: Dr. Dave Weldon, FL U.S. House of Representatives who is fighting the good fight in Congress is going on tour playing bass. This is a great holiday story:
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4252235&nav=0Rce
(Weldon's on M. Schiavo's black list)
No, it isn't. It is a puny little fairy story with no relation to known evidence or motive. It won't hold up to examination. It sounds like one more sycophantic reporter handing Schiavo one more untenable alibi.
If you want to grab attention, go for the truth. Ask the questions a real homicide investigator would ask. Probe the shifting alibis that Schiavo tried to use in his testimony, and question him about inconsistencies.
In the Autopsy Report, one gets just the new evidence needed in order to ask Schiavo tough questions about what actually happened. The M.E. confirmed that Terri never had a heart attack. The damage she suffered when she was deprived of oxygen was not global, either. No organs were affected below her head. So, we may safely deduce that Terri didn't "collapse" at all. Something happened to her from the neck up.
A real investigator would certainly want to dig into this. The insurance companies might want to pursue it too because Schiavo's malpractice suit(s) were fraudulent.
The autopsy revealed one other surprising detail that may be the final piece in the puzzle: the damage to Terri's brain was primarily in the front areas fed by the carotid arteries. That gives us the probable cause of her injuries. Somebody put enough pressure on her carotid arteries, for long enough, to leave her all-but lifeless on the floor.
Now as before, there is only one suspect.
No, do you? There is good reason to think she did not fall.
Terri's own plan to feign sleep doesn't jive with her walking around near the bathroom and making a thud in the hall. Michael's words "a thud and it was Terri." Larry King Live transcript.
Remember that woman who wrote all those murder mysteries with the Inspector? She wrote a lot of novels that were made into movies.
I think you may be on to something syriacus.
FYI: The answer may be in Tampa.
Terri told her friend that she was going to pretend to be asleep when he came home. Pretending to be asleep and walking around doesn't make sense. HINO's still lying about many things but maybe not about finding her in the hall if he had help.
2. the story that Terri was quietly injured by someone
Since there was no one else in the apartment, I'll take the liberty of changing 'someone' to Michael Schiavo, Terri's hot-headed husband.
It doesn't take much for a frightened (I'll pretend to be asleep when michael comes home) 5'2" woman to be 'quieted' by a 6'7" man.
How would you like to be a woman in that jail?
This is why I'm against Everett Rice becoming Florida's Attorney General. He was the Sheriff who voted against Terri when he became a non-elected house member after he gave HINO his job earlier this year at the Sheriff's Dept.
Rice is another GOP in with Judge Greed(r).
IF THEY'RE FROM PINELLAS COUNTY, DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE FOR A STATE OFFICE. They are members of Florida's medicaid fraud and death care system. In up to their eyeballs.
www.terrisfight.org
Not in the real world. We are, after all, discussing a fairy story here -- your fairy story -- not the facts of the case.
I was scoffing at the notion that some mystery assailant pulled her out of bed and left her for dead on the floor, all without a sound or a fight from Terri, and all without disturbing Schiavo's sleep. The same Michael Schiavo who claimed to be awakened instantly by the sound of Terri falling.
As I said, that's preposterous.
Law enforcement never did a true investigation. If they believed HINO from the get to, they would not have dusted for footprints, etc. A homicide file was opened on Terri that could have been re-classified. It never was.
Michael and his cohorts insist he didn't do anything to Terri, so why not start there and ask if anyone might have harmed Terri?
First - WHO are his cohorts? Where they in the apartment?
Second - if MS didn't even 'go there', someone entering apartment, why are you?
Schiavo Updates & Commentary at bottom of screen. URL worth re-posting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/politics/15cnd-program.html?ei=5065&en=80681ada74c04ce9&ex=1135314000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
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