Posted on 10/28/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by kcvl
Per Fox News...
You've been right about this whole thing the entire time.
Thank you! I don't understand some of the comments I have been reading -- yours made my evening!
He does more than you.
I think Libby was dumb in leaking to the NY Times to start with when Cooper was married to a Clintonite. I don't see where Cheney would have had a problem since he is not the one that leaked to reporters. Maybe I am missing something.
David Boies was on the Gore team.
BSK...please ignore my previous post...I really wasn't trying to be a "wise acre parrot". ;-(
I've been trying to catch up on reading this post all evening & had no idea that by the time I posted a reply to your post, that a dozen or so others had already posted the same!
lol. "The cat is chewing on a string in the corner."
Just tryin' to be factual here. Boggles the mind why it meets so much resistance.
Whether intentional or not, Libby has lied, the real question is if he did it intentionally, why? We have more or less learned Plame was not covert so there could have been no outing, but did Libby know this and was he just afraid he might have?
It was just the stupidest thing to do, it's always the cover up that gets them and in this case a cover up of something that wasn't even a crime.
I think Fitz is fishing, he's just changing lure's now.
And, of course, the lingering mystery question - who was Novak's initial source?
Given the descriptions in the indictment - if the information therein is true - I think Fitzgerald showed a great deal of restraint.
Restraint for what? This whole friggin thing was supposed to center around who outted a COVERT CIA AGENT we learned yesterday after a two year investigation has concluded know one has!!! All Fitz did was indict someone who supposedly lied about WHEN he obtained Plame's name...Who wasn't even covert and being bandied about in Washington like front page Inquiry News!
That's so friggin lame and bogus it's not even funny. Fitz did nothing more than went on a fishing expidention to hook a BIG mouth and got one.
We've now learned there is truly no "leaking" here by anyone, and let me also say this, MILLER has big one's for trying to protect Libby, at least it appears she was really trying to protect him now.
No problem :)
The guy said plainly that the reason he didn't bring an 'outing' charge is that he couldn't reasonably make a determination whether the - read this part carefully - revelation of CLASSIFIED information about Plame's employment was intentional, inadvertent, etc. And he said plainly that one of the reasons he couldn't make that determination is because Libby constructed a cover story to hide what actually happened.
A prosecutor with less restraint could take two little pieces - the 'non-secure phone' comment and the need to lie to cover-up what happened - and fairly make the argument that Libby INTENTIONALLY revealed the classified information.
Libby apparently makes such a suggestion himself, with his admission that he shouldn't talk about her on a non-secure line.
But I'm glad to know you are now on record as saying that lying to a grand jury deserves a 'slap on the wrist.' Does that apply regardless of political affiliation?
If the testimony as set forth in the GJ was accurate, Libby could either admit that he disseminated classified information to reporters, or lie and hope he didn't get caught. Looks like he stupidly chose the latter course of action.
If you haven't read the indictment, it is quite plain to anyone with a little common sense that Libby knew the information was classified. And that information comes from other WH witnesses, not reporters. The obvious answer to your question is THAT'S why he lied about it. He knew he did wrong (I'm not saying here he violated IIPA - but revealing classified info to reporters for political reasons is WRONG. If you want to take issue with that assertion, have at it. I hope you do.), so he tried to cover it up. Like a 5 year old.
That's right in line with your suggestion that people who lie to grand juries don't deserve much of anything in the way of punishment.
It is a good thing for you, apparently, that you don't find yourself in many situations where you rely on people to tell the truth, since you place such a low premium on it.
Lying to the GJ is serious but Fitzgerald's press conference was BS plain and simple. I have no faith that he is a stand up guy Your Highness.
But "classified" is not covert, and according to the guy who helped author the '82 (?) law I heard on WBAL interview yesterday, plainly said this law could in no way be applyied to this case as well as Fitz himself stated, his investigation concluded NO ONE OUTTED A COVERT AGENT...
There is no way on the face this earth she could have been outed! Fitz knew this, so his Classified comment was B.S.
Ok. Do we agree she was not OUTED by Libby?
Let me make this point, it maybe the case that he made a mistake and named her, but he is not charged with releasing classified info, he is charged with lying about it...So regarless, if he would have told the truth Fitz wouldn't have indicted him even for relaying "classified" info.
Fitz went fishing.
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