Posted on 10/28/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by kcvl
I don't either. It makes no sense.
True. Libby should only speak through a good criminal lawyer, and one who should say as little as possible. Silence from Libby's side would terrify the left.
Is this all about a zipper problem on Libby's part, because I can't think of what else it could be.
Good. Maybe Libby ought to hire her and her husband.
I've been hoping for that.
Thanks for the heads up
§ 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
Release date: 2005-08-03
(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or
(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or
(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or
(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or
(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term State includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853 (b), (c), and (e)(p)) shall apply to
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524 (c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
I'm not getting out my tinfoil yet...lol... but it kust makes no sense! Libby being a lawyer himself. He knew better.
" Fitzy made the mistake of letting his yapper run on autopilot for an hour '
The code of ethics for federal prosecutors, which addresses press conferences, limits them to reviewing the charges in the indictment-period.
They are not allowed to discuss the specific evidence so that the potential jury pool is not tainted.
Fitzgerald went way over the line.
Silence and a deluge of subpoenae.
I'd start by subpoenaing senior CIA officials and retired officials. (Some of them retired soon after this incident started to break.)
I'd subpoena Wilson and Plame next, then Russert, Cooper and Miller.
For starters.
Right. And a lawyer who speaks eloquently and forcefully to the press. Not some shy guy.
Maybe he will. I think they're top notch and both are GOOD public speakers.
He is going over the top with five counts but I cannot believe the people on here defending him for (alleged) lying to the FBI and GJ.
I REALLY like Barry Richard. Libby ought to think about hiring him.
Her key points: Fitz doesn't comfirm Pflame was COVERT.
He did NOT find on the ORIGINAL intent of the investigation- it was a crime committed during the investigation.
Her opinion is this is a CIA op against the administration.
CIA requested this investigation to cover their butts.
Still speaking...
Pardon me, but I'm a little confused. Fitzgerald kept saying that Libby is innocent until he is proven guilty. Then why does it feel as tho Libby has been tried, convicted and is on his way to 30 years in prison, plus owing more than a million in fines? Did I miss something?
I don't think HE thinks there will be a trial. He does not even seem confident that the charges are solid. He kept saying IF and presumed innocent, but he's the prosecutor.
I have no idea if it's true, but on another thread someone said they have Libby's computer, he thought he purged the hard drive, but they found stuff.
Thanks much!
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