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Hurricane Preparedness ( and general "bad times" links )
various FR links & stories | 10-23-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 10/23/2005 2:50:03 PM PDT by backhoe

 
The following is my usual slap-dash collection of quotes and links from other posts I have run across, with information about preparing for, coping with, and generally surviving hurricanes.

Tossed in is some general disaster information. Credit given when I can find or remember it.

The Survivalist & Y2K hounds weren't so wrong, after all...


  Fast Facts: How to Prepare  

  Survival starts at the household level -Here is one Survivalist site which I've found fascinatingly useful...(Simple Survival)

 Emergency Preparedness (year's supply of food, 72 hour kit)
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To: All
To: RoseyT; All

I hope everyone reading your post is paying attention. Losing electricity means no water, no refrigerated food, canned food disappearing from stores twice as fast as a result, no gasoline, because pumps can't bring it up out of the ground, and because there's no gasoline, no deliveries of food or medicine or other necessary supplies.

From what I've seen in the aftermath of these two hurricanes. most Americans simply are not set up to survive without electricity, and this worries me, because our electrical grid is wide open to a terrorist attack.

If we can't defend a 1000 mile border with Mexico, how can we possibly defend ten thousand miles of transmission lines? Any group of idiots with a crate of hand grenades can do to the country at large exactly what we see happening in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

I've spent a lot of time thinking about this, and it seems to me that survival in the absence of electricity falls into four main categories.

1. Water. You can survive for 3 minutes without oxygen, three days without water, and three weeks without food. You need a dead minimum of 1 gallon of water, per person, per day. This will only meet survival needs if no water is used for flushing toilets or for bathing. The average person may not drink a full gallon everyday, but by the time you factor in cooking and cleaning needs, one gallon per person is cutting the supply very thin.

Water storage takes up a lot of space, and it can be a fragile resource. Most containers of store bought water will break down over time and leak, they are designed to, so that they will biodegrade. Two liter soda bottles seem to hold up for much longer. So do water jugs purchased for camping. A family of four will need a minimum of 40 gallons to survive ten days. That is eight 5 gallon camping jugs or 80 two liter pop bottles full.

Far better is a sustainable supply. With the proper preparation, a creek or lake will keep you and your family alive for a long time. You need to be able to filter out particulate matter and you need to be able to kill germs and bacteria to use this water, especially since the chances are that others will be using these sources for waste disposal in the event of an emergency.

Water filters for backpackers can be purchased for around $50 to $100, but without filter replacements, they are limited to 100 to 200 gallons before they clog up.

A large scale filter can be constructed from a pair of large tupperware containers or buckets, some playground sand, and some fist sized rocks or driveway gravel. Cut half inch holes in the bottom of the smaller container and fill it two inches with gravel. Fill it another four inches with playground sand. Place about two inches of gravel in the bottom of the larger container, and then place the smaller container inside the larger one. Unfiltered water goes into the inner container, and filtered water is drawn off from the outer container. Be careful not to contaminate the outer container when pouring unfiltered water into the inner one.

This will remove mud, sand and grit, but it will not purify the water. Purification can be accomplished with ordinary Clorox bleach, 5.5 percent sodium hypochlorite solution, no perfumes or softeners. Use 8 drops of bleach per gallon of clean water, or up to 16 drops of bleach per gallon for water from suspect sources. The colder the water, the longer it will take the bleach to kill the bugs. Let the bleach do it's thing at least half an hour, I prefer to let it stand overight before using it. This will allow you nearly unlimited reserves of water without consuming fuel for boiling.

2. Food. Canned or boxed food, anything that does not require refrigeration, will disappear from stores overnight or sooner in the event of an emergency. You cannot wait until disaster strikes to stock up. You need breakfast, lunch and dinner for each person to function in the long term without electricity or outside aid. Foods requiring only boiled water require less water for cooking and cleanup.

Oatmeal or cream of wheat will suffice for breakfast. Canned fruit can improve the taste and nutrition value. Sugar may be required for flavor. Powdered fruit juice mixes can be served cold. A mix of powdered fruit juices and powdered gatorade will serve multiple purposes in warmer climates. Tea or coffee will improve the morale of adults.

Peanut butter, jam and crackers can serve as a basis for lunch. Powdered soups may supplement. Discount stores sell ramen noodle soups with vegetables by the case for less than 2 dollars. Beef jerky, peanuts, and M&M's can provide a change of pace. Canned tomatoes and elbow macaroni make a tasty hot dish. A little bit of onion or garlic seasoning go a long way to providing variety and improving flavor.

Dinner options are limited. Canned chicken or fish is most readily available. Bulk can be achieved with canned vegatables, canned fruits, and rice/macaroni. Foil pouches of hamburger do not require refrigeration and taste ok for tacos or spaghetti sauce. Spam and armor treet do not require refrigeration. Canned beef stew, beef hash, and spoaghetti/lasagne products can be purchased by the case from discount houses. Canned ham is readily available. One can of vegetable and another of fruit will keep from lunchtime to dinnertime, allowing for less waste and more balanced servings.

Liquor can serve as trading stock, and in some cases, fuel. A surplus of spices can serve as trading stock.

Don't forget the can opener, manual type, and a backup, plus a couple of P-38 style emergency backups.

3. Sanitation and human waste disposal. If water is readily available and sanitary sewers are functional, unfiltered water can be used to flush toilets. Dedicated containers make this process easier. Be sure to differentiate between containers used for filtered and unfiltered water and do not mix them up, or flushing requirements will skyrocket.

If sanitary sewers are not functional or water for flushing is in short supply, solid human waste should be deposited in 5 gallon buckets and burned in 30 or 55 gallon steel containers. Some fuel (kerosine works well) will be necessary to get the fire started. Burning containers need ventilation holes punched around the bottom rim for good combustion. Note wind direction before burning waste. A standard toilet seat will fit onto a 5 gallon bucket for better balance. Provisions for privacy will do a lot for morale. Don't forget to stockpile toilet paper.

A solar shower can be purchased for less than $10 at discount houses. In an emergency one can be constructed from a black garbage bag, but it will not function as well or as fast as one designed for the purpose, nor will it serve as a sprinkler head. In cold or cool climates, the ground or the hood of a vehicle will act as a heat sink and speed heat loss and prolong warm-up times. Insulation under the shower bag will counter this effect. On cloudy days, or whenever warming does not happen fast enough, take what you can get from the sun and enhance it with water warmed on the stove. This water does not have to be filtered, but it should not be swallowed or used to brush teeth if it hasn't been purified.

One adult can shower with as little as 1 gallon of water, although 1.5 gallons is a more realistic estimate.

Don't forget soap and shampoo. Clothes can be washed in a tub, sink or other container, using the friction method. Don't forget a suitable detergent. Dishwasher soap and automatic laundry detergents are poor substitutes for the manual variants. Clorox will act as a good disinfectant.

4. First aid. The major injuries you can expect after a disaster are cuts and broken bones. You need a way to stop bleeding, to clean and disinfect wounds, and to dress them so as to avoid infection later on. You can never have too many four by fours, 4" square gauze pads. You can never have too much duct tape. A well made dressing does not require surgical tape, since the tape does not touch open or abraded skin.

Duct tape and splints will stabilize broken bones. Be sure to pad splints if they will be used for an extended period, or ulceration will occur.

In an absolute emergency salt water will kill germs, and a ziplock bag with a pinhole will serve as an irrigation aid. Better yet is to stock up in advance on commercial disinfectant ointments. Rubbing alcohol and/or hydrogen peroxide are inexpensive in quantity but suffer some of the same drawbacks as salt water. Rubber tourniquets are worth their weight in gold, for a lot more than medical emergencies.

In addition to being ready for cuts and broken bones, a well tuned first aid kit will contain apsirin, antacid tablets, and antihistamines. Cough drops are a plus. Heavier pain medications may be useful if you have a prescription. Surgical masks, disposable rubber gloves and scissors are very useful to have.

If you purchase a surgical suite, or include needle and thread in your kit, be sure to include a weighty medical reference text along with it. Emergency appendectomies look good on TV. Your mileage may vary.

These are the four basic considerations in a situation where electrical service is interrupted for an indeterminate time, water, food, sanitation, and medical emergencies.

Heat or cold temperatures will require forethought and some sacrifice. Layers provide better insulation that one thick coat. Artificial fabrics next to the skin will wick away perspiration and greatly improve your survival chances in cold weather. Cotton holds moisture and kills people in cold environments through hypothermia.

In hot environments you need steady water intake to survive 4 hours of sweating. If you feel thirsty, you have waited too long. After four hours of heavy perspiration, you will need to address electrolyte balance. Powdered gatorade will deal with this, as will other sources of potassium such as bananas. Ordinary salt might not hurt, but it won't help as much as gatorade. One quart of gatorade will allow an adult male to perspire heavily for 8 hours without significant effect. Dinner and breakfast can be used to replete electrolytes after the workday is finished, preserving and extending gatorade stockpiles. An ordinary headband, handkerchief, or ballcap will keep sweat out of your eyes while working, and will go a long way towards improving your effort and its beneficial effect.

Emergency lighting is necessary, but not always advisable. LED headlamps provide hands-free emergency light for working, and preserve battery life up to 100 hours. Flashlights require a hand to hold them and use batteries much faster. Whale oil lamps can soot damage a dwelling very quickly if not properly adjusted, but will last longer than candles and will provide more light. Most oil lamps are cheaply constructed, get familiar with their inner workings before you need to depend on them. A small needlenose pilers and small screwdriver are essential for servicing these lamps. Oil for lamps can spontaneausly combust, discard wicks and rags outside, away from flammable materials after use. Any combustion consumes oxygen. Proper ventilation is a must.

Displaying light after sunset will call attention to your dwelling and may invite unwanted attention. Changing to a sunrise to sunset schedule will preserve resources and enhance security.

Security is a matter of personal choice, especially involving firearms. The uninitiated will be best served with a 12 gauge shotgun, which requires minimal practice to serve as an effective deterrent. During an emergency is a bad time to learn muzzle and trigger discipline, not to mention markmanship. An assortment of #5 or #7 birdshot, double ought buckshot, and deer slugs will allow you to double the utility for both defense and for small game hunting. Weapons should always be kept immaculately clean and should always be considered to be loaded.

That's enough for now, it covers the basics and doesn't add more detail than is necessary. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time before large segments of the American population are subjected to moderate or prolonged periods without electricity. We will either be ready for it, or we will not. The choice to prepare ourselves rests with each of us as individuals.



2,192 posted on 09/30/2005 2:55:57 PM EDT by jeffers
 
  Survival Preparedness
 
 Hurricane evacuation lessons
 
  Here's what you need:

Water
a fill bath tub
b fill all large pots
c several dozen cleaned plastic milk carton / change quarterly

Battery operated radio
Battery operated flashlights (1 per person + 1)

Week worth of batteries for above

Fill propane for gas grill

Fill all cars

Sterno cans and fondue pot for cooking

Matches, lighter, lighter fluid

Several rolls of 6 mil plastic sheets 10’ x 100’

5 boxes of 20 each, large garbage sacks

4 pair heavy work gloves

Axe, hatchet, shovel nails, heavy duty staples, staple gun, hammers, saws, chain saw

6 bread baking pans (to make block ice)

4 large ice chests

Hand operated can opener and bottle opener

Bug spray

1 month of all medicine, gauze, band aids, tape, alcohol, OTC headache, antiseptic

Heavy duty knives, 100 each plastic forks, spoons, knives, paper towels, paper plates Toilet Paper!

Soup, Vienna sausage, peanut butter, crackers, chili, bread, several small jelly, mustard, spam, apples, dried fruit, hard candy,

Stove top coffee pot, 10 lbs coffee, sugar, salt, pepper, tea bags

2 12 ga shot guns – 2 boxes of 00; 1 of slugs; bird shot

Can't recall the SN of the FReeper who penned the above- apologies!

 Start your food storage on $10 a week
 
 What is the best weapon for my wife?
 
  Gun sales up since hurricanes (CA) -- This is quite a phenomenon since all the footege of the looters in NO ran endlessly on the MSM.
My niece and nephew in Florida, boomer peaceniks, went out and bought their first guns last month, and have been down at the firing range learning how to use them. They are well-off, and have a lot of property to protect. Never thought I'd see the day that they would arm themselves.
 
 
Emergency Kit Is First Step
 
 FEMA family disaster supplies kit
 
 Food Storage and Emergency Preparation
 

-Terror Tips--

 
 When disaster strikes, be ready
 
 What you need
 
 


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To: backhoe

Our last hurricane was a brush-by – Hurricane Isabel. The water came up to about half a block away, with several neighborhoods being flooded. We lucked out with the wind also. We had a few trees downed in my neighborhood, but none hit cars or buildings. They were nice and just fell in the open and across the road. We lost power for about 36 hours when others areas here lost it for weeks.
I don’t think I will push my luck next time as I no longer have a wife and dog to listen to.


81 posted on 07/30/2006 3:26:49 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: backhoe; Rushmore Rocks; MamaDearest; LucyT; appalachian_dweller; nw_arizona_granny; JustPiper

Having grown up in California and lived there almost my entire life I learned to be prepared for anything and everything but particularly earthquakes. Even though I'm in Texas now, I still have a lot of water, canned and dried food stashed. One never knows these days what will happen next. It's a habit and a good one that every one should learn.

Thanks for the info, there's always new information to learn.

Ping....to a few FRiends.


82 posted on 07/30/2006 3:37:02 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr: (after making a fake to pit lane) Heh., Dang! I was trying to get Edwards to pit - Pocono)
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To: R. Scott
Our last hurricane was a brush-by – Hurricane Isabel. The water came up to about half a block away, with several neighborhoods being flooded. We lucked out with the wind also. We had a few trees downed in my neighborhood, but none hit cars or buildings. They were nice and just fell in the open and across the road. We lost power for about 36 hours when others areas here lost it for weeks. I don’t think I will push my luck next time as I no longer have a wife and dog to listen to.

Dora ( 1964 ) had the ocean advancing to our beach house; that's when we piled in the VW and headed for a house on the Island's only hill. Fortunately, it stopped before reaching the house- still, I have never seen anything more fearsome than that endless angry grey water coming relentlessly forward.

The situation I have is that my wife probably would not leave anyway, but when you add her Mom ( elderly, disabled, and she is not going anywhere, by gum! ) and her animals ( and we don't have children to look out for ) she simply won't budge, and of course I won't abandon her to a storm.

Now whether the house is up to it is anyone's guess- the Great Hurricane was in 1898, and the house was new, and had shutters ( long gone to rot ) on every window. It's held together with 16-penny, wedge-shaped iron nails, and those that are sound, you have trouble pulling with a four-foot crowbar. But some- you can pluck with your fingers...

At least it's high- most buildings here are single-story, this old pile is four feet off the ground, with two twelve-foot floors above that, and an attic equally tall. If it just holds together...

83 posted on 07/30/2006 3:43:06 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks- and the pings are appreciated.


84 posted on 07/30/2006 3:43:58 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

That sounds like the old family house back in Pennsylvania. It was built in the early 1800s. The frame is of red oak, lath and plaster with cut nails. Even hanging a picture was a bear, and forget about hanging shelves.


85 posted on 07/31/2006 2:37:42 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott
That sounds like the old family house back in Pennsylvania. It was built in the early 1800s. The frame is of red oak, lath and plaster with cut nails. Even hanging a picture was a bear, and forget about hanging shelves.

It makes repairs and remodelling "interesting," to say the least.

The lumber sizes actually were planed to "standard sizes" for their day, it's just that they were all bigger sizes-- the joists under the porch are 8" deep and 5" thick, and the walls are framed with what was called 5/4's... rough-cut to 5" x 4" and then planed down smooth.

The wood is stuff you can't even buy anymore because it's not grown for lumber-- oak, and long-leaf yellow pine, which is nearly as strong and hard as oak.

The last time I replaced some siding, I literally had to chin myself at the end of the crowbar to extract those 16-penny iron nails.

Got a longer wrecking bar after that episode.

86 posted on 07/31/2006 3:25:33 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

Yep. Think of how much it would cost today to build that same house.


87 posted on 07/31/2006 12:51:11 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: All
New system provides power, water, refrigeration from one source
88 posted on 08/02/2006 3:57:33 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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I think this is also a good time to review Appalachian Dweller's comprehensive survival list:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~appalachiandweller/

535 posted on 08/09/2006 10:19:08 AM EDT by Velveeta


89 posted on 08/09/2006 10:21:50 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

B.H., I am going to ping you to a thread in a minute, seems it might be of interest to you.

jm


90 posted on 08/19/2006 12:14:31 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.gravityteen.com)
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You'll make it if you have a plan and prepare a little ahead of time.
Just have a good plan, some skills, a can-do attitude for what's next.
You WILL survive Doomsday.
 
 

91 posted on 09/14/2006 7:18:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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SO WHEN I WAS AT THE MALL THE OTHER DAY, I saw that Eddie Bauer had a prominent display featuring this Disaster Emergency Kit for 2. It's not bad, especially for a car or apartment, though I'd certainly want to supplement it.

But what struck me more than the kit itself was the prominence of the display. Put that together with the fact that Target is marketing survival kits with the American Red Cross, Slate has run a series on disaster survival, and Consumer Reports is pushing disaster preparedness and it looks like we've got something of a trend. (Popular Mechanics is on the job, too, but you expect that from them.) And walking through J.C. Penney the same day I saw hand-cranked dynamo lanterns and radios prominently displayed by the entrance.More on disaster preparedness here and here. Remember, though, it's not just about buying things -- it's about learning things, too.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Blue Crab Boulevard reports: "Cheaper than Dirt has some survival kits that are, well, cheaper than dirt."

And Eric Klien of the Lifeboat Foundation sends a link to some really serious disaster preparedness.


92 posted on 10/14/2006 1:44:28 PM PDT by backhoe
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The Wisdom of Survivalist Crowds

93 posted on 10/24/2006 1:35:28 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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BTTT, general bad times preparedness link.


94 posted on 12/08/2006 1:57:51 AM PST by JockoManning (http://www.bebroken.com)
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I LINKED TO THE U.S. ARMY SURVIVAL MANUAL the other day. It's pretty cheap in printed form, but reader Richard Kemmer notes: "You might want to pass on to your readers the fact that they can obtain a copy of this manual for free, in PDF format here. Given that so many people travel with computer-like phones, many can keep this in their phones, if they wish."

That's kind of cool. Though in PDF it's a pretty big document to store on most cell phones. Maybe converted to HTML or text, though.

95 posted on 12/11/2006 3:25:54 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe
The Are You Ready? guide is available here for download.

Every home in America is entitled to one free copy. (Your tax dollars hard at work)

L

96 posted on 12/11/2006 3:30:04 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: backhoe

Good link. Slow server.

I also recommend any edition you can find of "Fieldbook for Boys and Men" published by BSA.

Don't forget the fishing stuff, I have 3 collapsible poles all set with 5-19 lb test line. Bluegills are bony but quite tasty.

And I saved just about all the seeds from my garden last year, alot of lettuce, cabbage, carrot, onion seeds.

In the northwest theres about 3 species of wild lettuce, bitter if it's old, but best while young.

And dandelion is perfectly edible. In fact it's quite good for you.


97 posted on 12/11/2006 4:15:24 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. WAKE UP!! They want to turn our place into their place!!!)
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To: djf

Appreciate the information- thank you.


98 posted on 12/11/2006 4:18:05 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Lurker
The Are You Ready? guide is available here for download.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

99 posted on 12/11/2006 4:19:18 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe
You can request a hard copy of it directly from FEMA and they'll send one to you gratis.

Every household in America is entitled to one free hard copy.

This is one area the Feds are Constitutionally authorized to be working in and I'm pretty darned happy they finally seem to be taking it seriously.

L

100 posted on 12/11/2006 4:21:38 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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