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1 posted on 10/16/2005 11:17:48 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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Great article! Hope it gets widely distributed.


2 posted on 10/16/2005 11:29:40 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

The media is clamoring for an indictment even if the evidence doesn't support it! Imagine that.


5 posted on 10/17/2005 3:33:56 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
... forced the Bush administration to agree to their demands for an investigation in the CIA leak case.

the Bush administration were yelling "Please don't throw us in the briar patch".

6 posted on 10/17/2005 3:35:41 AM PDT by agere_contra
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But, but the NY Times says Libby and Rove are going to jail!!! Who to believe, who to believe, hmmmm . . . ;-)


7 posted on 10/17/2005 4:04:46 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Her story exonerates the Bush administration and it should put the focus where it belongs - on Wilson, his wife and the duplicitous bureaucrats in the CIA.

Good Heavens! This is just horrible news for the Democrats. What will they do now? This is just so so horrible! :>
9 posted on 10/17/2005 4:17:15 AM PDT by Maurice Tift
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I sure hope that the media is not given special immunity from grand jury testimony. That would be WRONG.


11 posted on 10/17/2005 4:30:15 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Libby apparently disclosed some things, were these supposed to be secret?


13 posted on 10/17/2005 4:54:48 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
It's not really a story about Bush officials Lewis Libby and Karl Rove and their conversations with the press. Rather, it's a story about a CIA bureaucracy working to undermine the Bush administration through the media and cover up for its own mistakes.

This guy nails it. Good article. Unfortunately, it's from GOPUSA and his take won't get mentioned or discussed beyond its boundaries and places like FR. Of course, I don't expect the 'free press' to do anything except continue to cover up their doo-doo.

14 posted on 10/17/2005 5:25:52 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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Anyone that is stupid enough to talk off the record to NYT reporters needs to be fired.


16 posted on 10/17/2005 5:29:27 AM PDT by cynicom
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Super article. I had long been wondering about the nepotism aspect. So the CIA operative goes, "Well, my hubby likes to hang out and drink tea with folks in Niger, I'm sure he'll get us the straight dope." Huh?!?

*This is important because Plame's role in recommending him for the Africa trip, as documented by the Senate Intelligence Committee, possibly violated federal nepotism laws.*


20 posted on 10/17/2005 6:53:27 AM PDT by finnsheep
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I agree with everything Kincaide said. What I don't understand is that Matthews, CNN,FOX,MSNBC, CBS,NBC,ABC, and all of their mouthpieces, even today, after the Miller piece is printed, come out with exactly the opposite of what Kincaide states. They say, "White HOuse braces for Upcoming Bush Administration Incictments". Never mind that the main reporter who just spent 85 days in jail went to the grand jury and exonnerated Libbey/Rove. Yet the MSM has become more frenetic in their exuberent pronouncements that Libby is going down.

And here I ask myself, "I must be a dumbass, because it looks like their allegations of Libby just fell apart, but all of the NYT, Time magazines Fineman, and all of the rest are like elk in a frenzied rut, just about the stick it to the administration. I keep reading and concluding the same thing, and they keep writing and repeating the same thing. Both are 180 degrees out of phase from one another". Who is living in fantasy land?

21 posted on 10/17/2005 6:54:26 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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I am of the opinion that miller never had a source to begin with. I don't think novak did either. The "source" is " I do not recall". To me that is a cop out.

I think the media hounds decided to print information they THOUGHT was right and had nothing to back it up but "anonymous sources". Furthermore, I think they printed ( or were going to print) other information they knew or thought to be false in an attempt to get tuthful information.

I believe in the right to speak. However, I think accountability is needed. I for one am SICK AND TIRED of anonymous sourcing. If there is no source named, then I think the writing or the reporting needs to be in the OP ED section and NOT the NEWS section.

If anonymous sourcing is further protected, we will see MORE false reporting not more truthful reporting.

The MSM has made their bed and the last couple years have shown many people the light. Dan rather....I thank you for helping that (LOL).

I think that this whole "Rove"..."Cheney"...."White house" investigation was a HUGE DUCK MISSION that is a direct result of POOR journalism standards.


23 posted on 10/17/2005 8:19:11 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Miller says the following about Fitzgerald's line of questioning: "Mr. Fitzgerald asked me whether Mr. Libby had mentioned nepotism. I said no."

Very interesting comment. Wilson mentioned nepotism in his October 5 MTP interview.

RUSSERT: Was there a suggestion that this was cronyism, that it was your wife who had arranged the mission?

WILSON: I have no idea what they were trying to suggest in this. I can only assume that it was nepotism. And I can tell you that when the decision was made, which was made after a briefing and after a gaming out at the agency with the intelligence community, there was nobody in that room when we went through this that I knew.

I wonder if Wilson is the source for the "nepotism" allegaton.

26 posted on 10/17/2005 9:00:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
None of this crap wouldn't be happening had Bush cleaned house and purged the CIA, FBI, and State Departments from Clinton/liberal holdovers.
29 posted on 10/17/2005 9:24:48 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
Judith Miller's claim that she can't recall who first told her that Joe Wilson's wife was Valerie Plame (a.k.a. Victoria Flame) is not credible. A reporter will always remember an initial source when subsequent information received is used to confirm, deny or crosscheck against the original revelation.

Nevertheless, Miller and the Times can be believed on their GOP exoneration. They would never go to jail to obstruct an investigation so as to protect a Republican source since their whole editorial strategy has been to find and publish embarrassing material to damage or destroy the Bush administration and to suppress all contrary information on Democratic corruption, Kerry's dishonorable discharge, WMD and Iraq, Able Danger data mining, Air America and the Gloria Wiese scandal, Louis Freeh on Clinton's graft, etc.

If da glove don't fit, ya gotta acquit.

30 posted on 10/17/2005 9:27:31 AM PDT by OESY
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The CIA - FB&I - DEA - BATF - NSA - NEA - FOB we'd be better off without the whole group.


31 posted on 10/17/2005 9:33:20 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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