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OU student left suicide message
The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

Sun October 16, 2005
OU student left suicide message

By Nolan Clay
The Oklahoman

NORMAN - The University of Oklahoma student who died in an explosion Oct. 1 left a message on his computer that he was going to quit living, his father said.

The FBI read the message to the father Friday, after he came to Oklahoma to clear out his son's university-owned apartment.

Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III, an engineering student, died when his bomb went off about 100 yards from the packed football stadium during the second quarter of OU's night game against Kansas State.

Hinrichs, 21, was from Colorado Springs, Colo. He had a reputation as a loner and had struggled at times with his grades. His parents had begun divorce proceedings.

Joel Hinrichs Jr. said he understood investigators found the message on the computer screen when they arrived at the apartment.

"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end."

The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.

No links to terrorist groups

FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket.

FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.

His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else.

The father said the FBI on Friday showed him the fractured bench where his son was sitting when the bomb exploded and photos of his son's headless body and a tattered backpack.

The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.

The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.

He also had items more typical of many college students -- textbooks, empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.

The father allowed two reporters from The Oklahoman into the bedroom briefly Thursday.

Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: batf; bomb; cia; fakesuicidenote; fbi; hinrichs; homelandsecurity; normanbombing; normanbomer; ou; oubomber; oubombing; waronterror
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Comment #201 Removed by Moderator

To: Bigg Red
So much just doesn't add up. Changed stories, stories that conflict...and they tell us things that only a stupid person would believe. Some of my theories change as time goes on, but one thing seems certain--they're covering something up.
202 posted on 10/16/2005 4:27:39 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

Yeah, too quick on the trigger... They do still do that in movies, don't they?


203 posted on 10/16/2005 4:31:19 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: MizSterious

...most software doesn't have a blinking cursor...

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I'm pretty sure my Microsoft Word does.....


204 posted on 10/16/2005 4:33:06 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: MizSterious

Great for google goggle ogling.

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Stop it! Now I'm google goggle giggling!


205 posted on 10/16/2005 4:39:06 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: juntos

She's not listed on that site. Hmmm....does she really work there??


207 posted on 10/16/2005 4:45:37 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: LibertyRocks

When a search warrant is sealed, it is sealed from public viewing. An "officer of the court" can be privy to the warrant, if he is directly involved with the case.

Theoretically, any "officer of the court" can reveal contents of the warrant or preferably, the "return" of the warrant, in their own words to anyone else deemed suitable to the "officer of the court." That's in theory, but in practice, it should not be done and in most instances, it isn't.

However, the FBI person who was an "officer of the court"--a party to the warrant process--could divulge results of the warrant to the interested party--the deceased's father--if he had good reason to. He probably wouldn't mention that it was obtained by warrant, though--that's not necessary.

Sorta like a grand jury witness in secret proceedings can tell other people what he/she witnessed, but just can't tell them that it's what he/she testified to in the grand jury proceedings.


208 posted on 10/16/2005 4:46:42 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Cougar66
your post to me was rude.

No your post was irritating in that it showed, that like many here, you didn't even bother to read the info and think. Many just like to post something, anything, regardless of whether or not it even makes sense. I will try, as you suggest, to ignore you, if you will try to read, and think before you post.

209 posted on 10/16/2005 4:47:37 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: TigersEye

I searched the FNC site for a transcript of the Kasich Heartland interview from yesterday and they don't even have a mention that it was a topic on the show.

They do still have the promo for that edition up on the site, but 4 other topics, not the OU bombing.

So, please, does ANYONE remember the brother's first name, Tom or Chris?


210 posted on 10/16/2005 4:49:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Bigg Red

That's to be expected from someone who spells "big" with two g's!


211 posted on 10/16/2005 4:53:01 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: DietCoke

The dad was insistent that Joel's problems had nothing to do with the divorce proceedings--he'd had them since high school and even before, his dad said. Like the problem with the bullies in the 8th grade where he retaliated and got punished. I have something about that I'll include in the family info when I finish it.


212 posted on 10/16/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Thanks for clarifying that, I appreciate it. I thought there might be some leeway, otherwise how could they question people and such... Anyway, the FBI at this point is contributing to more speculation by releasing little bits here and there that can't be confirmed, IMHO.


213 posted on 10/16/2005 5:09:02 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: LibertyRocks; indcons
Not sure if y'all have these first CNN AP Wire stories or not. Here they are just in case anyone missed them:

First AP story ran by CNN -- ( Sunday, October 2, 2005; Posted 5:40 a.m. EDT)

Second AP story ran by CNN -- (Monday, October 3, 2005; Posted: 12:56 p.m. EDT)

Third AP story ran by CNN -- (Tuesday, October 4, 2005; Posted 12:41 p.m. EDT)

214 posted on 10/16/2005 5:09:29 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Rte66

He looked older than Joel, beardless tho. oops. Joel was the youngest, just remembered. I did not catch the name.


215 posted on 10/16/2005 5:21:47 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (WAR: 1/3 yes, 1/3 no, 1/3 undecided; So began the American Revolution)
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To: MizSterious; juntos; All

About Rachel Kahne at OU:

She is set to graduate in Fall of '05 with a degree in journalism:GRADUATING FALL '05:
http://www.newsrant.org/announcements/graduation/f2005_graduation.pdf

In 2003-2004 she did an internship with MTV as a political correspondent: http://www.studentmedia.ou.edu/index.php?page=internships2003-04.php
Gaylord College Student Chosen as MTV Political Correspondent
http://jmc.ou.edu/announcements/MTV/mtv.html

In 2002-2003 she did her internship in D.C. in the White House...
http://www.studentmedia.ou.edu/index.php?page=internships2002-03.php

She has published several articles I found in a cursory check:
http://www.westerncourier.com/media/paper650/news/2003/03/26/News/National.Briefs-444854.shtml
Published: Wednesday, March 26, 2003
Patriot Acts receive criticism, support
Mary Ann Martin and Rachael Kahne,
Oklahoma Daily (U. Oklahoma)

and

UOSA offers community-service booth
Students can make Valentine's cards for hospital patients.
Rachael Kahne - Daily Staff Writer
February 13, 2004
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/02/13/402c561f9efa2


216 posted on 10/16/2005 5:31:27 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: MizSterious; juntos

Kahne is majoring in Broadcast Journalism as a senior which explains why she is no longer on staff for the OU Daily Newspaper...

See this article in which she is quoted:
New telecast promotes professionalism
Broadcast professor Dana Rosengard has brought a new attitude to live ‘OU Nightly.’
by Earl Kenneth Sneed Jr.
September 14, 2005
http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/09/14/4328e4cadc347?in_archive=1


217 posted on 10/16/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

Thanks. I'm still not sure, then. I think the bearded one is the younger of the two brothers, who is 3 years older than Joel III was. He seems to still be at home there in CO Springs, but I don't know about the other one, if bearded or beardless. Hmmmm.


219 posted on 10/16/2005 5:51:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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