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OU student left suicide message
The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

Sun October 16, 2005
OU student left suicide message

By Nolan Clay
The Oklahoman

NORMAN - The University of Oklahoma student who died in an explosion Oct. 1 left a message on his computer that he was going to quit living, his father said.

The FBI read the message to the father Friday, after he came to Oklahoma to clear out his son's university-owned apartment.

Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III, an engineering student, died when his bomb went off about 100 yards from the packed football stadium during the second quarter of OU's night game against Kansas State.

Hinrichs, 21, was from Colorado Springs, Colo. He had a reputation as a loner and had struggled at times with his grades. His parents had begun divorce proceedings.

Joel Hinrichs Jr. said he understood investigators found the message on the computer screen when they arrived at the apartment.

"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end."

The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.

No links to terrorist groups

FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket.

FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.

His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else.

The father said the FBI on Friday showed him the fractured bench where his son was sitting when the bomb exploded and photos of his son's headless body and a tattered backpack.

The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.

The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.

He also had items more typical of many college students -- textbooks, empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.

The father allowed two reporters from The Oklahoman into the bedroom briefly Thursday.

Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: batf; bomb; cia; fakesuicidenote; fbi; hinrichs; homelandsecurity; normanbombing; normanbomer; ou; oubomber; oubombing; waronterror
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To: MizSterious; juntos; All

AP Report as of 12:32AM on Oct. 2 available at KFOR...
No suspects named

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?s=3925606

Also on the above page are links to two video reports at KFOR. As I said, I don't think there was any mention on network news until the next day regarding anyone taken into custody.


181 posted on 10/16/2005 3:55:16 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: digitalbrownshirt; Rodney King

"re:24
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere."

I know the foreign students I attend classes with, including the grad students, are paying full tuition. The only exception is for the TA's. They pay full tuition, but they often also get tuition credits (which don't cover the fees, just the tuition.) They also get paid for the teaching part, at something like minimum wage. I was set up for a similar program, but it fell through at the last moment, so I'm attending part-time, rather than full-time, and working as a substitute teacher in a local public school. This MAY be different for students in the geosciences department, but I don't know. I do know that SOME countries send their kids here, tuition paid. Saudi Arabia was one, at one time, don't know if they still are. Hope that helps; post 24 is right, and wrong, depending on who and which program.


And scrolling down further, I see he expanded on his post,as well, to tell you just what I did, as well...

Reminder to self: read the whole thread before posting... writing that on the board 50000000 times!!!


182 posted on 10/16/2005 3:55:22 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: weegee
WHAT situation?

This maybe? --->His parents had begun divorce proceedings.

183 posted on 10/16/2005 3:55:56 PM PDT by DietCoke
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To: LibertyRocks; juntos

Thanks--I didn't want to trust my memory alone, and it's a good thing I didn't! Still no indication of when the arrests were. Wish there were some way we could get in touch with Kahne and ask her about that part of her note to Malkin.


184 posted on 10/16/2005 3:57:36 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: TigersEye
I noticed too that the father's statement today is strangely reminiscent of what his father "supposed" Joel was thinking in the interviews shortly after the incident.

Plus, we still don't know what the note said - only what his Father is paraphrasing based on what supposedly the FBI supposedly told him the note read over the phone when he arrived in Oklahoma. All this even though the search warrant is STILL sealed? How could the FBI have told him anything???
185 posted on 10/16/2005 3:57:54 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: MizSterious

I'll try to look for an email addy for her. Perhaps she has an old story still up on the OU website. (I don't imagine she'll talk though, I would imagine she's most likely been threatened with getting kicked out!)


186 posted on 10/16/2005 3:59:04 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: cripplecreek
"First there was no note and now there was a note?"

This is not satisfactory, at all.... What exactly did the "note" say? My computer has password controls - if for some reason, I dont use my computer for 5 minutes, a window pops up for my password to allow the user back in. This was a mechanical engineering student that had left his computer unattended & someone finds it with a statement saying he doesnt want to go on living? Not enough information to ease my conspiracy theories, yet. By the way, has the Channel 11 news report from Colorado been discredited where they stated the bomb was remote-controlled? I havent seen anything more about that report.

187 posted on 10/16/2005 4:01:14 PM PDT by texianyankee
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To: PatriotGirl827

Hinrich's brother was very strange and Congressman Cole R-OK was spouting the "bloggers are Conspiracy nuts" and "just a depressed kid/suicide" spin like a top. It was funny how he listed the long litany of ME terrorist ties to the Norman OK area and then laughed it off as "coincidence." I lost all respect for Kasich last night. He perfectly shilled the cover-up. No tough questions, everything designed to lead to the "bloggers-r-nuts/kid was depressed" conclusion.


188 posted on 10/16/2005 4:02:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (What happened to the front door from David Koresh's house?)
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To: hummingbird

"...and that's the one reason I don't keep my diary there! A book with a key and "Hello, Kitty" on the cover is much, much more secure!"

Not if I have access, a pair of scissors or an exacto-knife, and some glue, it isn't. Strong encryption may not be your friend, but lack of it is anyone else's friend that wants to look at your writing, FRiend. ;)


189 posted on 10/16/2005 4:04:03 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: LibertyRocks
All this even though the search warrant is STILL sealed? How could the FBI have told him anything???

Good question. Here's another one...why is it sealed?

190 posted on 10/16/2005 4:09:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (How does a 78"X36"X1.5" steel door disappear from an evidence facility without a trace? Planning!)
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To: MizSterious
Since most software doesn't have a blinking cursor, I'm at a loss about that one. Either they made it up, or he was using DOS--funny way to write a "suicide" note, eh?

I agree the story sounds very convenient...but FWIW I have a blinking cursor in every program that allows typing, and I would guess you do, too.

191 posted on 10/16/2005 4:11:51 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: indcons

I'm sorry to see that, with the exception of occasional new spin, like this story, that it seems to have fallen into a black hole.


192 posted on 10/16/2005 4:15:39 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: LibertyRocks

I think I read in the article that the note said
JH was angry. My first thought was that depressed people commit suicide. Angry people usually want to show the world just how angry they are- think of Columbine or other mass killings. Depression makes someone turn inward. Anger leaves a person looking for a focus for their rage.
Angry pepole do commit suicide but are more inclined to want to take others with them.
PS. I am not talking about all depressed or angry people. Just those who have reached the point where they think death is their only option.


194 posted on 10/16/2005 4:19:54 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: MizSterious

...father can't remember "exactly" what the so-called suicide note...

***
Exactly. Especially since it was "one line of text". Good grief! How could you not recall verbatim one line from your dead son? Things just keep not adding up in this story.


195 posted on 10/16/2005 4:19:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: PhatHead

You shoulda read downthread a little. TI was thinking of a big, very obvious white thing like those on the old computer on "Lost." These barely make the grade. I'm showing my age here, remembering DOS.


197 posted on 10/16/2005 4:20:36 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

Those folks always seem to have a lot of markers they can call in. Some folks don't have the smarts to collect markers. They have to steal FBI files. ;>


198 posted on 10/16/2005 4:23:06 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: MizSterious

So now people on this thread have to wear goggles? Would regular safety glasses work?

&&
LOL! Good eye.
Can I just wear beer goggles?


199 posted on 10/16/2005 4:23:13 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: juntos; PhiKapMom

For some reason, though, Kahne (who lives here, attends OU, and writes for the OU paper) said "minutes after"--surely she didn't get that info from an AP story 4 days after the incident? I guess it's possible. Wish there were some way to ask her.


200 posted on 10/16/2005 4:24:11 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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