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Sen. Bayh: Rove Must Step Down, Even if Not Indicted (Twisted Logic Barf Alert)
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Posted on 10/13/2005 10:57:20 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly

Sen. Bayh: Rove Must Step Down, Even if Not Indicted

A Democratic senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate said Thursday that White House political adviser Karl Rove must step down if he is linked to the leaking of a CIA operative's name.

Rove faces a fourth grand jury appearance in the investigation of the leaking of CIA officer Valeria Plame's name after her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, criticized the Bush administration's policies in Iraq.

"Even if he's not indicted, if it appears that a top adviser to the president of the United States was trying to harm someone personally for having a different public policy point of view, that's unacceptable behavior in the White House," Sen. Evan Bayh said.

The Indiana senator said Bush's strategists have divided the nation for short-term political gain.

"That kind of cynical strategy has worked well for Karl Rove and the people whose advice he takes, but it's not good for America and it's not the kind of politics I'm going to practice," Bayh said.

Bayh, who is considering a run for the Democratic presidential nomination, visited Iowa to campaign for legislative candidates.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 109th; bayh; byebayh; cialeak; pixiegrismore; rove
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Lame attempt by John Edwards wannabe/lookalike Evan (don't ask me about my relationship with my wife) Bayh.


61 posted on 10/13/2005 11:56:15 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: caver

The people of Indiana ought to be ashamed of him. I am.

I am too.


62 posted on 10/13/2005 11:56:23 AM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: SuziQ
"As Rush used to say about the Dems' accusing Repubs. of anything, "It's not the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charges."

On other Plame threads, we have noticed that in the past couple of days the latest Dem talking points seem to be based on the assumption that Fitzerald will file no charges against Rove or Libby or anyone in the WH. So they are getting out the message that Rove is guilty-even-if-innocent, kind of like cBS's "inaccurate but true," or whatever it was.
63 posted on 10/13/2005 12:00:59 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: lucyblue

Thought you'd be interested in post #43.

Google Pixie Grismore. I've never heard any of this...but it's very interesting.


64 posted on 10/13/2005 12:10:38 PM PDT by Purdue Pete
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To: hflynn

A sure sign this mutt can't win in a run for the presidency.
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Ok...NEW RULE. You can't pick your own team.

Any Candidates running for President must submit the names of all their staff and cabinet nominees to the people so WE CAN DECIDE who will be in the Administration.


65 posted on 10/13/2005 12:15:11 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Let's hope that after "Bye" fails in his bid for the Dim nomination, the good Red State voters of Indiana will vote this pandering fool out of the Senate.


66 posted on 10/13/2005 12:27:01 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
"Even if he's not indicted impeached, if it appears that a top adviser to the president of the United States was trying to harm someone personally for having a different public policy point of view, that's unacceptable behavior in the White House," Sen. Evan Bayh said.

Clinton hypocrisy update.

67 posted on 10/13/2005 12:31:14 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: ken5050
I can't wait until the Dem primary debates start..

Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Bayh, The Travelocity Gnome, and I saw that Daschle might run. My God, the Comedy Channel will go out of business!

68 posted on 10/13/2005 12:31:49 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Is it Walker Elementary? No, it is Freepers arguing over the Miers nomination!)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

THis argument is a non-starter, because there was no personal harm done to anybody as a result of this information being made available to the public, who had a right to know the truth.

Plame didn't lose her job, or have any retaliation. Her husband didn't lose his job, or suffer any ill effects. In fact, he publicly outed his wife, made millions on book deals, and became a media superstar. He even came close to having a position with a new administration.

There is no evidence that the White House was doing anything other than trying to provide factual information to the public so the public could make an informed decision as to what to believe.

When telling the truth is considered "personal attack", you have to wonder what is wrong with the people you are telling the truth about.

TO show the inherent absurdity --

Bayh says that is not the kind of politics he will practice (trying to harm someone personally for having a different point of view).

But here Bayh is, trying to harm Rove personally because Rove has a different point of view. Gee, maybe Bayh should resign. Of course he'll say he had good reasons for his statement, but so did Rove.


69 posted on 10/13/2005 12:34:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

LOL...just more evidence this whole made up scam by the rats is coming to a close without any WH involvement whatsoever. Hoping this takes down a few of the anti-Bush rats. ;o)


70 posted on 10/13/2005 12:35:56 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: cardinal4
Q: What do you call Hillary on stage with Biden, Kerry, Edwards, Bayh, Feingold, Richardson, and Warner?

A: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs..

71 posted on 10/13/2005 12:44:43 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: add925

OK, please, what about his relationship with his wife? I am from Indiana also and I think this guy is an embarrassment.


72 posted on 10/13/2005 12:47:23 PM PDT by Misschuck
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To: alarm rider

It's also a pretty good sign Rove won't be indicted.


73 posted on 10/13/2005 1:04:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Misschuck
Email on its way.


74 posted on 10/13/2005 2:06:35 PM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Always Right
Actually, John Roberts was born in Buffalo, NY, I think, but became a Hoosier as a child.

Bayh was sworn in as senator in January 1999, just in time to vote to acquit Clinton in his Senate trial.

75 posted on 10/13/2005 2:09:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: rightinthemiddle
Our Repubs will have to promote a good candidate in IN against him. His state demo machine is potent.

Opponent has to be good and put Bahy's voting record on public display to illustrate how out of sync he is with his constituents.

76 posted on 10/13/2005 2:14:20 PM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yes he was born in Buffalo, but he grew up in Indiana. Went to a Catholic school in Michigan City, IN and went to Prep Schoool near my hometown of LaPorte, IN.


77 posted on 10/13/2005 2:14:31 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Under that criteria, why didn't Clinton step down? Why didn't Kerry step down from the Senate since he missed most of the votes (which is the only job of the Senator)? Why would the accusation require stepping down, only if you're an effective republican. (read: Delay, Rove, Lott).

Filthy libs just need to shut their phlegm holes.


78 posted on 10/13/2005 4:28:12 PM PDT by jw777
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

I hate him already


79 posted on 10/13/2005 5:59:53 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Larry is currently filling his depends.


80 posted on 10/13/2005 8:45:53 PM PDT by Waco
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