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To: RogueIsland
Your Nobel prize in genetics awaits you, sir.

You know if those that believe in evolution were not so funny, they would, in all probability, be ignored. But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on.

We went to a museum and the kids, all 5-7th grade homeschooled, had a ball with the guide, this guy did not even know he was being shown to be the fool, he just smiled and in his highhanded manners said things like. "Well, little lady, we aren’t sure exactly when the dinosaurs died, but from the fossil record, we know it had to be between 16.7 million and 100 million years ago." She said "How do you know that?" and he said "Why from the location of the fossil remains of these giant extinct animals of course."

Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE." Note the new politically correct BCE instead of BC.

The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid, but being the polite kids that they are, they just shook their heads up and down as you would to an imbecile.

I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions.

7 posted on 10/11/2005 4:44:57 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer
Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE." Note the new politically correct BCE instead of BC. The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid

Well, that museum guide was using circular reasoning and should probably polish his presentation to avoid that. However, I think it's great that your cute little sixth grader has studied stratigraphy to the point where he is able to publish monographs critiquing the current state of the field. Look forward to reading the abstracts.

13 posted on 10/11/2005 4:53:58 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: newsgatherer; RogueIsland; PatrickHenry; GadareneDemoniac; mlc9852
You know if those that believe in evolution were not so funny, they would, in all probability, be ignored. But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on.

People always laugh at stuff they don't understand. You're a prime example.

We went to a museum and the kids, all 5-7th grade homeschooled, had a ball with the guide, this guy did not even know he was being shown to be the fool, he just smiled and in his highhanded manners said things like. "Well, little lady, we aren’t sure exactly when the dinosaurs died, but from the fossil record, we know it had to be between 16.7 million and 100 million years ago."

Is there any particular reason you're blatantly lying? You're obviously making things up that never happened. No museum guide anywhere would every be so stupid as to say that the dinosaurs died out "between 16.7 and 100 million years ago". Even most gradeschool kids know that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period. Please don't post your fantasies as if they were actual anecdotes. Bearing false witness is a sin.

She said "How do you know that?" and he said "Why from the location of the fossil remains of these giant extinct animals of course."

Yet again, your own ignorance reveals your dishonest lie. No museum guide would ever say *that*, either, because that's not how dating is done. That's how *creationists* falsely *think* it's done (all their propaganda pamphlets are filled with that goofy but false claim), so you obviously didn't actually hear that from a museum guide, you made it up based on what you have read from your creationist idols. Shame on you for lying.

Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE."

Again, horse manure. Stop telling fantasy tales that "prove" the standard creationist horse manure, but which bears no resemblance to how things are *actually* done in science.

The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid,

It would be if that's how it's done, but it's not. Thanks for lying in order to promulgate a popular piece of creationist bull***t. I don't know why you creationists lie so baldly and unashamedly so often, but you do -- I've seen you guys do it more times than I can count. Please explain how you manage to square such behavior with your alleged Christian principles.

There are many examples of creationists making this false claim (that fossils are dated by strata and that strata are dated by fossils, in a case of circular reasoning). For example: Morris, Henry M., 1974. Scientific Creationism, Green Forest, AR: Master Books, pp. 95-96, 136.

It is, however, horse crap. See for example: Radiometric Dating and the Geological Time Scale: Circular Reasoning or Reliable Tools? .

No museum guide would ever make the mistake of repeating creationist propaganda as if it were actually how the museum and/or scientists conducted dating tests. Newsgatherer is lying to you -- like so many other creationists.

but being the polite kids that they are, they just shook their heads up and down as you would to an imbecile.

The only "imbecile" here is the guy who makes up stories and presents them as if they really happened, and in the process demonstrates his dishonesty and ignorance of how scientists actually do things. That imbecile would be you.

I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions.

Which "foolish assertions" would those be? Be specific.

We "attack creationism" because it richly deserves to be, as you have so well demonstrated. It's a pack of lies, propaganda, and false attacks on valid science. It's Michael Moore tactics, and deserves the exact same kind of scorn and exposure.

Meanwhile, it's the creationists who have such an "empty theory" that they have to lie about it in order to falsely and dishonestly attack actual science. And no one who actually cared about the "Word of God" would be as grossly dishonest and deceitful as you are. So who are you *really* following?

17 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:02 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: newsgatherer

It is entertaining - lol.


27 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:56 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: newsgatherer
And I believe you tbat this event actually happened.










I win.
30 posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:39 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: newsgatherer

Obviously all the home-schooled in the group and you never got a proper education in evolutionary biology or you wouldn't be making such stupid posts.


171 posted on 10/12/2005 5:45:27 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: newsgatherer
"But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on."

If you think that's outlandish you should see the people who think all that there is and all that one can know can all be explained by one old book mostly written by folks who took 40 years to make a three week hike through the desert.

326 posted on 10/27/2005 3:49:00 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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