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To: newsgatherer; RogueIsland; PatrickHenry; GadareneDemoniac; mlc9852
You know if those that believe in evolution were not so funny, they would, in all probability, be ignored. But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on.

People always laugh at stuff they don't understand. You're a prime example.

We went to a museum and the kids, all 5-7th grade homeschooled, had a ball with the guide, this guy did not even know he was being shown to be the fool, he just smiled and in his highhanded manners said things like. "Well, little lady, we aren’t sure exactly when the dinosaurs died, but from the fossil record, we know it had to be between 16.7 million and 100 million years ago."

Is there any particular reason you're blatantly lying? You're obviously making things up that never happened. No museum guide anywhere would every be so stupid as to say that the dinosaurs died out "between 16.7 and 100 million years ago". Even most gradeschool kids know that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period. Please don't post your fantasies as if they were actual anecdotes. Bearing false witness is a sin.

She said "How do you know that?" and he said "Why from the location of the fossil remains of these giant extinct animals of course."

Yet again, your own ignorance reveals your dishonest lie. No museum guide would ever say *that*, either, because that's not how dating is done. That's how *creationists* falsely *think* it's done (all their propaganda pamphlets are filled with that goofy but false claim), so you obviously didn't actually hear that from a museum guide, you made it up based on what you have read from your creationist idols. Shame on you for lying.

Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE."

Again, horse manure. Stop telling fantasy tales that "prove" the standard creationist horse manure, but which bears no resemblance to how things are *actually* done in science.

The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid,

It would be if that's how it's done, but it's not. Thanks for lying in order to promulgate a popular piece of creationist bull***t. I don't know why you creationists lie so baldly and unashamedly so often, but you do -- I've seen you guys do it more times than I can count. Please explain how you manage to square such behavior with your alleged Christian principles.

There are many examples of creationists making this false claim (that fossils are dated by strata and that strata are dated by fossils, in a case of circular reasoning). For example: Morris, Henry M., 1974. Scientific Creationism, Green Forest, AR: Master Books, pp. 95-96, 136.

It is, however, horse crap. See for example: Radiometric Dating and the Geological Time Scale: Circular Reasoning or Reliable Tools? .

No museum guide would ever make the mistake of repeating creationist propaganda as if it were actually how the museum and/or scientists conducted dating tests. Newsgatherer is lying to you -- like so many other creationists.

but being the polite kids that they are, they just shook their heads up and down as you would to an imbecile.

The only "imbecile" here is the guy who makes up stories and presents them as if they really happened, and in the process demonstrates his dishonesty and ignorance of how scientists actually do things. That imbecile would be you.

I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions.

Which "foolish assertions" would those be? Be specific.

We "attack creationism" because it richly deserves to be, as you have so well demonstrated. It's a pack of lies, propaganda, and false attacks on valid science. It's Michael Moore tactics, and deserves the exact same kind of scorn and exposure.

Meanwhile, it's the creationists who have such an "empty theory" that they have to lie about it in order to falsely and dishonestly attack actual science. And no one who actually cared about the "Word of God" would be as grossly dishonest and deceitful as you are. So who are you *really* following?

17 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:02 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: Ichneumon
Bearing false witness is a sin.

I think in some cases mental deficiency will mitigate.

38 posted on 10/11/2005 6:09:55 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Ichneumon; Junior
Thanks for the pings. This is obviously not a thread for the evolution list.

Junior, for the catalog.

39 posted on 10/11/2005 6:17:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: Ichneumon

If you can give me a complete and "finished" (meaning not missing any "missing links")fossil record, starting with the big bang, then I'll start to take you seriously. Even then, that doesn't mean that evolution's true. Oh, btw, if the big bang actually happened, where did all the matter for the big bang come from? If you are a "scientist" and not a "layperson" you will be able to give a better answer than the "oh it was always there" after all, it had to come from somewhere, right?


41 posted on 10/11/2005 6:20:51 AM PDT by evilrightwingconspirator (The ability to speak (or think) does not make you intelligent. Bill Clinton is a prime example)
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To: Ichneumon
People always laugh at stuff they don't understand. You're a prime example.

Now that is a pretty stupid statement! I know and can articulate what I believe in, God created the everything and He did it in six days!

Now, let's see you articulte what you believe as clearly.

Take as much space as you want, I really need a good alugh this moring, you evolutionist keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourselves. Open mouth insert millions and millions of feet.

42 posted on 10/11/2005 6:27:31 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Ichneumon

Another command performance! My hat's off to you sir.


57 posted on 10/11/2005 6:59:48 AM PDT by jayef
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To: Ichneumon

Ichneumon says;
Is there any particular reason you're blatantly lying? You're obviously making things up that never happened. No museum guide anywhere would every be so stupid as to say that the dinosaurs died out "between 16.7 and 100 million years ago". Even most gradeschool kids know that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period. Please don't post your fantasies as if they were actual anecdotes. Bearing false witness is a sin."

This is why evolutionists cannot be trusted. He claims that "no museum guide anywhere would be so stupid..." So he has surveyed every museum guide? That kind of generalization is what evolution is all about. They show us a timeline of 18 Billion years and tell us to believe it without scientific witnessing, experimentation or fact - pretending to be knowledgeable about every minute of those 18 Billion years. What a racket! Who needs to teach IDs when there are so many holes in evilution.


74 posted on 10/11/2005 8:06:10 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: Ichneumon; newsgatherer
Bearing false witness is a sin.

Not if you are a "Soldier of God"

172 posted on 10/12/2005 5:48:40 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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