Posted on 10/09/2005 6:38:56 PM PDT by RWR8189
"Well, Billy, in 1492, Christopher Columbus sailed from Europe to America and founded the very first settlement in the New World. His arrival marks the beginning of America as we know it."
"But didn't he discover America by accident, dad?"
"Columbus believed the Earth was a sphere. He thought he could reach the Far East by setting off on a westward course. Though he stumbled upon what is now the Bahamas by accident, he was still a great explorer and a great man, Billy."
"A great man, dad, or a racist oppressor?"
"Pardon me, son?"
"When Columbus came to America, he brought with him the greed of the white European males who subsequently colonized America for the dough. They fought and killed the Indigenous Peoples who were already here and took their land and their gold. Columbus eventually died a very rich man."
"Well, Billy, an unfortunate part of human history involves countries invading their neighbors to take control. This has happened in many parts of the world, including Europe, which has a long history of war. But remember that Indigenous Peoples were also prone to war and fighting to expand their control well before Europeans arrived."
"Well, Columbus is also responsible for many germs and diseases that Europeans brought to America, causing untold suffering and death among the people who were here before us."
"Have you been drinking too much caffeine lately, Billy?"
"America's history of environmental destruction can also be laid at Columbus' feet, dad. As soon as the Europeans colonized America's pristine lands, they cut down the trees and plowed up the fields. Can you say soil erosion, dad?"
"Son, did I ever tell you that you take after your mother's side?"
"And what about slavery?
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the facsist indian groups her ein denver, including ward churchill, did their best to threaten and intimidate the italians out of celebrating their heritage. in the end, though, the parade went off without a hitch.
This has been going for a long time. When 1992 and the 500th anniversary rolled around, I remember that nearly nothing happened. Should have been a big deal, but the liberals successfully shut it down.
The 'great debate' of what constitutes a human being occurred at Salamanca between Sepulveda and de las Casas, arguing before religious and political forces that governed Spain. The indians lost out, as we know. The archival documents of the debate still exist.
The left holds much contempt for dead European males.
"Can't he be both, like the late Earl Warren?"
And the Indians gave us tobacco and syphilis in return. I'd say they've just about had their revenge.
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Great Racist Oppressor!
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D minus just about sums up your status...I would give you an F though.
Which do you prefer? Tobacco ... or syphilis?
I like tobacco!
I kind of like Columbus Day. The little tribe that Columbus discovered had an odd way of cooking their food, placing a rock over the fire, and putting flesh on it. The corruption of their word has come down to us: Barbeque.
They also were infested with ants, and had a unique device to keep the ants away from them as they slept. The Hammock.
The hammock still has a faintly nautical air to it, some 500 years later.
The tribe appears to be genetically gone, having suffered the most from their exposure to Old World diseases. These aspects of their culture have been spread worldwide.
Cristobal Colon XX was recently Admiral of the Spanish Navy.
My grandfather was an Armenian. I don't have any animosity for Turks.
The celebration of Columbus isn't a celebration of the destruction of the indigenous peoples of that time, it is a celebration of mankind finding out something else momentous about the world they lived in.
The people who came out on the short end of the stick of that era were unlucky. But it is not like they weren't treating each other like subhumans either.
So many people seem to think the native people of those days were just living in harmony, the sun was bright and the flowers were blooming. They practiced internecine warfare that was as horrible and dehumanistic as anything the Europeans were doing to each other, perhaps even more so if you look at the Aztecs and their kind.
Actually a Great Man can be a Racust Oppressor. Attila the Hun was a Great Man as was Adolph Hitler. Great is their amount of effect on the world, not their benevolence..
But enquiring minds still want to know: did he have a map?
Leif Ericson discovered Newfoundland and possibly Cape Cod, Mass, at least 500 years before Columbus. I don't understand why we don't have a day honoring him.
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