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'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'
The Australian ^ | October 10, 2005 | Simon Kearney

Posted on 10/09/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by Dundee

'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'

AUSTRALIANS had declared a moral war on Muslims in Indonesia with their drinking and skimpy clothes in Bali, the eldest brother of three of those responsible for the 2002 attacks said yesterday.

Muhammed Khozin told The Australian at his home in Tenggulun, East Java, that his community didn't care about the October 1 Bali bombings because they were not linked to people from his village.

Mr Khozin's younger brothers Amrozi and Mukhlas were sentenced to death and Ali Imron to life imprisonment for their roles in the attacks on the Sari Club and Paddy's bar, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Mr Khozin said the behaviour of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said. "I'm sorry, Australian culture makes war on morality. They come to Bali with bikinis, they make war on morality. Not physical war, morality war. Respect the culture and religion of Indonesia."

His son, 19-year-old university student Afif, said there would be no end to terrorism while Australians continued going to Bali and behaving without respect for Muslim culture.

He believed the first Bali bombing committed by his uncles was justified because it discouraged tourists in Bali. "If Muslims died in that action, the Muslims will go to heaven," he said.

Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

Mr Khozin runs the Al-Islaman boarding school in the village that he founded with his late father 30 years ago. Such schools, known as pesantren, are seen as a breeding ground for terrorists.

He said if Canberra wanted to stop radicalism in Indonesia, it should teach Australians to be more respectful of Islam.

Moreover, Australia could help fund facilities at Islamic schools like his, which are mainly in poor areas and are under-resourced, to help better educate Muslims in Indonesia.

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

He taught his students the concept of "dakwah", which means to confront people who do things that are wrong and tell them to stop.

But he did not subscribe to the view of radicals that they should act to physically erase something they did not agree with.

His brothers had a different view of Islam to his but he believed they were still good people. He called on the Indonesian Government to return them to their community, where they could be rehabilitated.

"The community have a dream. If Amrozi came back here, he will do things like that."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bali; indonesia; islam; jihad; modesty; rop; wot
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To: JRios1968
on a Friday if they were Muslim

and on a Friday no less. ;^)

21 posted on 10/09/2005 2:19:54 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Dundee
Mr Khozin said the behavior of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

He's right. We ALL need to respect, adapt to and pick up Muslim traites when visiting Muslim countries.

Like beheading.

22 posted on 10/09/2005 2:22:29 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Dundee

Looks like we have a few more enemy to dispose of in the middle east and it seem we haven't been disposing of the right ones in Afghanistan or Iraq.


23 posted on 10/09/2005 2:22:40 PM PDT by Petey139
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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks. I'm getting horny. I'll have to break out a few 50 pound bags of Gold Medal flour though.


24 posted on 10/09/2005 2:22:46 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Dundee

Where's the "it's about our foreign policy" hand-wringers?

...

Actually it's about everything. As for "respect" he means subjugation.


25 posted on 10/09/2005 2:25:10 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NY Attitude

I've always figured that Friday being so "holy" to them was very significant since Friday is the day Jesus died on the Cross.

Having taken care of serious issues (see above), I will volunteer that bikinis and booze have resulted in many bombings of all sorts in my checkered past.


26 posted on 10/09/2005 2:27:20 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: JRios1968

Sour grapes make a very bad whine LOL.


27 posted on 10/09/2005 2:28:57 PM PDT by sono (I knew I was going to take the wrong train, so I left early. L Berra)
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To: Dundee
"If Muslims died in that action, the Muslims will go to heaven," he said.

Of course, being in the southern hemisphere, their ascension might just be a bit warmer than might be expected.

28 posted on 10/09/2005 2:30:13 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Paleo Conservative
You are a sick twisted individual for posting such a picture. My eyeballs have melted thanks to you.
29 posted on 10/09/2005 2:30:33 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Dundee
"'Look what you made me do' All the real sickies say that!"

A mental patient in Pournelle and Niven's novel Footfall

I think Messrs Pournelle and Niven got that right.

30 posted on 10/09/2005 2:31:07 PM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: Dundee
Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect submit to Muslim culture.
31 posted on 10/09/2005 2:34:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

*PHWEEEET* "Personal Foul-showing obcene bikini pic! 15 yards from the spot of the foul, First Down!"


32 posted on 10/09/2005 2:34:51 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No more catchy taglines-The Left just plain sucks...)
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To: Dundee
"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry....

Sinatra must be turning in his grave...

"THAT'S BOOZE N' BROADS, PAL!!"

33 posted on 10/09/2005 2:35:21 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: JRios1968

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

Seems extortion is the name of the game. Where have we seen this before?


34 posted on 10/09/2005 2:37:08 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: NY Attitude

That was what really threw us for a loop...oh, well, the hypocrisy of TROP is never-ending.


35 posted on 10/09/2005 2:37:35 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Wasn't it Indonesia that turned their noses up to American aid after the tsunami?


36 posted on 10/09/2005 2:38:41 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Dundee
'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'

Gee - I thought it was mooselimbs

37 posted on 10/09/2005 2:39:02 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Not too worry - we'll all be united again under the next Clinton presidency!!)
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""Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said."

Booze, and boobs. How horrible. Those poor oppresed muslims.


38 posted on 10/09/2005 2:39:12 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Dundee
Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry.

I'm waiting for the list (however skimpy) of what doesn't anger Muslims.
39 posted on 10/09/2005 2:39:26 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: Dundee

>> Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority,"

In short, don't vacation in a country with a Muslim majority.


40 posted on 10/09/2005 2:41:03 PM PDT by mmercier (so it goes)
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