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Bush Bets Court on Untested Aide
Human Events ^

Posted on 10/07/2005 12:02:21 PM PDT by Betaille

They are angry, dismayed and disheartened, but, more importantly, concerned for the fate of the Supreme Court.

The conservative reaction against President Bush’s nomination of untested White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court was so universal and intense that it erupted at each of the two separate meetings of activist leaders held Wednesday by Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and Free Congress Foundation Chairman Paul Weyrich.

At the Norquist meeting, conservatives targeted their ire at former Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie, who is working with the White House on Supreme Court nominations. At the Weyrich meeting, Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman and Tim Goeglein, White House liaison to the conservative community, found themselves in the crosshairs.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: dirtboy
Sowell wrote a very good piece on the subject, and his analysis tends to be very rational and sober

Actually, IIRC, Sowell wrote that the Republican Party is a gaggle of unprincipled sleazeballs, and the Miers pick was justified on the grounds that she's the one he could slip by the weasels.

But I don't recall Bush Jr. campaigning exactly a year ago with "I don't have the guts to fight Jim Jeffords, so I'm going to nominate cyphers for the Supreme Court. Vote for me!"

101 posted on 10/07/2005 1:31:49 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: dirtboy

So to you, "realism" is to not ask questions, toe the party line, and hope it all turns out okay.


102 posted on 10/07/2005 1:32:43 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: All

McCain was just on Fox, refused to say outright that he would vote for Miers. Just said he was "favorably inclined" - sounds like a dodge to me.


103 posted on 10/07/2005 1:37:13 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: cyncooper

Sure and Donald Trump and Steven Spielberg have all sorts of accomplishments - should they be nominated for the high court?

The point is whether the "accomplishments" fit the specific job requirements, in this case Texas Lotto head doesn't appear to fit the bill.


104 posted on 10/07/2005 1:40:18 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: msnimje
msnimje asks:
why don't you tell us why you believe she would be an excellent addition to the Supreme Court and was indeed "the Best Person" (not woman, best person) the President could find?

There _is no_ "best person" for this - or for ANY - Supreme Court nomination.

There _is_ a pool of qualified candidates. Their "qualifications" consist of their past writings and stands on the issues, and by expressing themselves through the years on the issues, they build up a career portfolio and _become_ "qualified".

From this pool, a president may select that person _he considers_ to be his best choice.

Of course, that is no guarantee that the person selected will, over time, live up to one's expectations. Example: Eisenhower's pick of Earl Warren.

To pick someone who DOES NOT have a track record of written opinions as evidence of his or her judicial philosophy is tantamount to a crapshoot. G.H.W. Bush tried that with David Souter; and exactly how has _he_ turned out?

Ms. Meirs may indeed turn out to be a dedicated conservative justice, possibly in the mold of Clarence Thomas. But at this time, there is no way to KNOW that, because so little is known about her.

There are dozens of conservative judges, on both the federal and state levels, who DO have established conservative credentials and who would have been as "confirmable" as Ms. Meirs.

Again, I hope Ms. Meirs evolves into a justice who will guard the Constitution and surprise conservatives. But - at this point, her performance will remain "a surprise", because so little is known of her, other than her employment relationship with G.W. Bush.

She may indeed surprise us by being a "good pick".

But for the BushBots to continue to argue that she is "the best person for the job" is flat-out ridiculous.

She isn't.

As I said, NO ONE is.

Cheers!
- John

105 posted on 10/07/2005 1:40:21 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Sam the Sham
Religion is the only reason that has been given to support her nomination.

No, it isn't.

President Bush pointed to her integrity, ethics, intellect, accomplishments, fairness and sound legal judgement.

106 posted on 10/07/2005 1:46:15 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: k2blader
So to you, "realism" is to not ask questions, toe the party line, and hope it all turns out okay.

Uh, no.

Realism is realizing that the centrists now control the nominating process.

107 posted on 10/07/2005 1:46:41 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: nerdgirl
McCain was just on Fox, refused to say outright that he would vote for Miers. Just said he was "favorably inclined" - sounds like a dodge to me.

The wind isn't blowing strongly enough in any particular direction for McVain to detect it with his moistened, upthrust finger.

108 posted on 10/07/2005 1:47:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: nerdgirl; dirtboy
McCain was just on Fox, refused to say outright that he would vote for Miers. Just said he was "favorably inclined" - sounds like a dodge to me.

So much for the 'promise' of support from the Gang of 14.

109 posted on 10/07/2005 1:49:14 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: nerdgirl

Oh, please. I suggest you do a little research before you comment if you don't know the facts.


110 posted on 10/07/2005 1:49:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Sam the Sham
So much for the 'promise' of support from the Gang of 14.

The Dems are the ones Bush is most concerned with, and they've all said Miers initially is acceptable.

McVain, if there is political controversy around, will maintain the position that gets him the most interviews.

111 posted on 10/07/2005 1:51:34 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: cyncooper

Enlighten us, will you? What about running the Lotto and Texas bar qualifies one to sit on SCOTUS?

With standards this low, we will get exactly the court we deserve.


112 posted on 10/07/2005 1:52:46 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: Uncledave
Would an insider or outside be more tempted? I think an young insider would be.

As with most else surrounding this nomination -- who knows? You could be right. We can all hope you are. Make no mistake about it, they (the "Establishment") will be working on Miers from day one. Don't you agree that there were so many candidates with whom we'd have a higher level of confidence in saying, "he/she won't succumb to the pressure"? Do you believe the president owed us that confidence?

113 posted on 10/07/2005 1:52:46 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: Sam the Sham
Gang (of 14): 'no alarm bells' (But Reid Backs Away From Miers)

The Gang of 14’s centrist Democratic and Republican senators met and gave preliminary approval yesterday to Harriet Miers as President Bush’s nominee to replace Justice Sandra Day O’Connor on the Supreme Court.

Emerging from a meeting at the offices of Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said, “This nomination didn’t set off any alarm bells with any of us.” P> The significance of this provisional endorsement, though presented in a low-key fashion, could be huge, for it means that unless damning evidence emerges during the Judiciary Committee’s as-yet unscheduled confirmation hearings the nominee is unlikely to be filibustered, and a party-line vote would mean confirmation. A party-line vote is far from assured because conservatives have not welcomed the nomination.

114 posted on 10/07/2005 1:53:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy; nerdgirl; cyncooper
The Dems are the ones Bush is most concerned with, and they've all said Miers initially is acceptable.

You are so trusting, dirtboy. It so happens that I have a lovely bridge for sale you might be interested in.

115 posted on 10/07/2005 1:58:09 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: nerdgirl

First, I said it is one of her accomplishments when someone else incorrectly stated that her tenure leading the Bar was the only accomplishment cited. (I'll make a sidenote that someone else later cluelessly went on to say that Religion was the only qualification cited) I then pointed out that people were uninformed when they derided the Lottery experience.

I did not herald it as the defining accomplishment or qualification.

Got that?

Now, in the wake of people wringing their hands and saying she goes to church and fearing she'll be swayed by liberals, as if she has no experience making tough decisions I look to this Lottery experience as an example of her character, decision making, legal judgement and fairness.

For you to wave a hand at Trump and Spielberg as comparable shows how silly you are being, however, here's some information:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051003/ap_on_go_su_co/miers_texas_lottery


116 posted on 10/07/2005 2:03:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Sam the Sham
You are so trusting, dirtboy. It so happens that I have a lovely bridge for sale you might be interested in.

Once again, by forming the Gang of 14, the centrists have grabbed power they did not have before within their party voting blocks. And politicians are quite prone to guard power.

Unless Miers ends up being completely objectionalbe to the Dems, they will hold, IMO.

117 posted on 10/07/2005 2:07:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

Since when is an unqualified evangelical Christian NOT completely objectionable to the Dems ?


118 posted on 10/07/2005 2:09:28 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham
Since when is an unqualified evangelical Christian NOT completely objectionable to the Dems ?

When said person doesn't generate enough problems with their home state Dems to jeopardize their re-election.

The Gang of 14 Dems are centrists, not liberals.

119 posted on 10/07/2005 2:13:51 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: cyncooper
My point was to highlight how shallow your own argument was. Do you really think all Miers needs to show us is

Character, decision making, legal judgement and fairness. ?

There are many democrats who qualify under that stringent standard.

Sorry, but we are debating the appointment to the highest court in our land. This woman is no standout, no scholar, and has NOT in fact demonstrated a consistant stance on conservative issues. Based on her background, we have almost no way to assess what kind of jurist she'll be - or how she'll swing. The Christian angle has been brough up again and again here because it's a large piece of the "trust Bush" argument.

120 posted on 10/07/2005 2:18:08 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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