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How & Why to Re-focus Halloween as a "Fall Festival"
GTBE email ^ | 10/07/05 | self

Posted on 10/07/2005 10:14:25 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance

Re-focus Halloween!


If your school insists on having some kind of Halloween celebration, recommend that they steer away from the ghoulish and occult and, instead, focus on the event as a fall festival. ...

"When you turn evil into a game, it trivializes it and numbs children to its darkness."
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To: absolootezer0

If I were still a pastor, I'd insist on changing "Fall Festival" to "Halloween" just to stir up the pot.


121 posted on 10/07/2005 11:15:54 AM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: k2blader

You must be Glenda the Good Witch.


122 posted on 10/07/2005 11:16:07 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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To: blue-duncan
We'll take the little one around before we go to the Fall Festival.
123 posted on 10/07/2005 11:16:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, I’m not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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To: Blurblogger
I can sort of understand what you're saying. We are blessed and I've taught my son that every good thing is from God. To him right now, candy is a VERY good thing. :o) (probably because he doesn't get it as often as he wants)

We're Christians, lovin' the Lord and all that, but we still do the silly halloween stuff. My husband and son have already bought their costumes and we've already done one pumpkin (a cat!) because my son couldn't wait. :o) It's just one day out of the year when my son can dress up and act silly and go beg for candy and get to eat a ton of it! My husband and I have already talked about this, and when my son (and other children we may have) get older and candy doesn't hold the same appeal that it does now, we'll do something else together halloween night. I was thinking of those bowling parties where the bowling balls and pins glow, with the black lights and music and pizza and all that. When he's older we can explain to him the mean-spiritedness (is that even a word lol) that happens on halloween sometimes, and how we can let it be for the little ones to get candy.

This year my son is going to go as a Doctor, my husband is riding an ostrich, and I haven't decided what I'll be yet. :o)

We're not celebrating death, satan, witchcraft or anything like that. The adults here make it so fun for the kids....everyone who's giving out candy does their garage up like a mini haunted house, but nothing scary, just really neat. I think it's a mistake to get bogged down in the details and "religion".

Don't sit in judgment of parents who want to take their kids out. If I'm wrong, then I'll be convicted on it. We've been to fall festivals at churches and it's not so different. The kids still dress up any way they want, they get candy...etc. I always thought the festivals in churches were to keep the kids safe from poisoned candy and "stranger danger" and things like that. We don't have to worry about that here.

We're not participating in evil. Our kids here have to worry about the evil that their parent's are currently overseas fighting. We deal with deployments and TDY and training and etc....let them have their fun, I say. These kids have to grow up fast, they fear seeing a chaplain's car...let them have fun and be little still and silly for a night.

If I'm wrong, then God Himself will give me a "spiritual slap-down". :o)
124 posted on 10/07/2005 11:17:14 AM PDT by misty4jc
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To: Blurblogger
Been uncouth since I popped out of the womb.

"I raised alot of Cain in my younger day. Mama would always pray my crops would fail."

125 posted on 10/07/2005 11:17:22 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: Horatio Gates
About 10% of the kids who come by my house are dressed up in a perfect costume of a teenager.
126 posted on 10/07/2005 11:17:39 AM PDT by PeteB570 (The church lady made me post this)
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To: Overtaxed
Think I'll give out carrots and celery.

Just hope it doesn't rain on the toilet paper then, it makes it a real ***** to get off the trees. It could help with the eggs though.

127 posted on 10/07/2005 11:17:57 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Blurblogger

"Your post is indeed a disgrace to this thread and to the credo of FreeRepublic.

The Lord rebuke thee, Ma'am. "



Oh, my goodness. Not only a whiny post, but a curse in the name of your deity, as well.

Check with your pastor, if you would. I believe calling on God to concemn someone else is the very definition of taking the Lord's name in vain.

I could be wrong, but do check with your pastor on that.


128 posted on 10/07/2005 11:18:01 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Overtaxed
I just want to know why I should buy candy for other peoples' children.

Maybe because it's fun for the children? I loved to see the kids come to our door in a variety of costumes, especially the little boofers. You, of course do NOT have to buy candy for other people's children. When we went out trick-or-treating when I was a kid, we always knew which homes to steer clear of. They kept their porch lights off. :)

129 posted on 10/07/2005 11:18:12 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Blurblogger

Are you for real? It's roots are ancient harvest holidays later mixed with Christian holidays. As a matter of fact observant Jews I know don't allow their kids to participate in trick-or-treating and don't give out treats (as a matter of fact it was a bone of contention in one family I know, mom said it was harmless, dad, the rabbi, said no).

How do you think it honors witchcraft?

All Saint's Day (Nov 1) and All Souls Day (Nov 2) are fairly somber holidays, honoring the dead. (However, I think I read that in Mexico, there is a tradition of bringing dead relative's favorite foods to the cemetary and celebrating a family meal there.) The older harvest holidays were more upbeat, and hopeful for a safe winter.

Speaking of darkness, is there a black cloud following you? Have a candy corn and lighten up!


130 posted on 10/07/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
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To: bilhosty

A lot of these attacks are misrepresenting the post. No one said to end the fun of Halloween. But where is the "fun" in front yards covered with fake bloody bodies with axes in their heads!


131 posted on 10/07/2005 11:19:32 AM PDT by right
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To: Blurblogger

Jeez is taking the Lord's name in vain? Surely you jest. Oooops, I hope I didn't just offend anyone name Shirley.


132 posted on 10/07/2005 11:19:37 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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To: Overtaxed
Think I'll give out carrots and celery.

Oh, you don't want to do that. That's what Vegans eat. ROFL!

133 posted on 10/07/2005 11:20:08 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: PeteB570

You don't get it, do you. Grouping halloween with Christmas and Easter is like grouping amnesty for illegals with spending cuts and welfare reform.


134 posted on 10/07/2005 11:21:00 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: ShadowDancer

Not really, it isn't. But to call on God to rebuke someone is certainly taking the Lord's name in vain. Not very nice, and cause for repentance, I'd think.


135 posted on 10/07/2005 11:21:08 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Heh...they can throw the stuff in the compost pile for all I care.


136 posted on 10/07/2005 11:21:10 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Home is where the hard drive is.)
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To: right
where is the "fun" in front yards covered with fake bloody bodies with axes in their heads!

So it was YOU I SAW driving by my yard!

:->

137 posted on 10/07/2005 11:21:22 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Blurblogger
And insure that Christmas is called a “Winter Festival” – after all, it’s more about spending money and parties than about the Christ.
By the way, I doubt my ancestors – who celebrated Samhain (now Halloween) were Satanists. They had never even heard of Satan.
138 posted on 10/07/2005 11:21:36 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Overtaxed

"Heh...they can throw the stuff in the compost pile for all I care."

OK. Well, good luck with all that. You might just want to leave your porch light off and let the kids pass by. Me? I'll be chuckling at all the costumes.


139 posted on 10/07/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Corin Stormhands

A friend of my sister's puts an empty basket on the front porch with a sign that says "help yourself."


140 posted on 10/07/2005 11:22:24 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Home is where the hard drive is.)
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